Message from @mcguyver123
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Leave the conversation at that point
She will kick and scream and try to get you to fight her
Don't even play
Btw I mean -you- STFU and find something to do, not that you tell her to do that lmao
Ask @Deadbeat Radio, I'm zen as fuck. Its not even like I get mad while me and her get into these things. Or upset. It just bothers me this is where my marriage is at. I've valued and honored myself with being faithful for 8 years. Had so many opportunities to stray but a man doesnt do that when he makes an oath....
I'll try flipping the script on her like you suggest though. I already do what I want and am independent in heart. I love the fuck outta myself (not in a sociopathic way)
Good
I'm happy to hear that
And for what it's worth I empathize
Sort of the same boat with my wife but it's getting better
Need her to lose weight tho
You gotta love yourself and stay Rock solid in who you are
And I also get being frustrated with where things are at. I've also had some good chances to get tail but I made a commitment and I'm sticking to that.
@Bodark Actual word. Itll figure itself out eventually. Self correcting issue. Just cant have kids till it gets figured out
Kids wont fix shit, I know that for a fact. And with uncle sam being a sugar daddy, if shit got worse and we had kids, I'd be fucked.
@Bodark Actual also hardest shit in the world is getting a comfortable woman to go to the gym.
@mcguyver123 don't have kids they will inherent her worst qualities right now lol
And yes I agree
@mcguyver123 I'm always here for you bro....
Oh yeah, we broin down
@mcguyver123 is zen af. I've trolled him in real life for half a year to no avail. Really admire that about him. I mean, I know deep down I'm wearing down his armor. Death by a thousand cuts and what not, but he has shown great resilience thus far.
Anyways, @mcguyver123 have you tried beating your wife mercilessly till you pass out, regardless of whether or not she's still conscious? Lol jk
Bro, she is an attention freak. Self victimization is her style of manipulation. "Woe is me"=pity for her. You have a caring soul, bro. You are a wingman at heart, as am I, as well as @Deadbeat Radio . We are attractive to these personality types because they can garner compassion from us easily. And you're getting burned out because it's not really a problem that needs to be solved, it's her style of manipulation to get that compassion, attention, and makes for a good excuse. How would she get those things if she "fixed" herself? This isn't something for you to fix, it's more a matter of her taking responsibility for her own desires and long term actions. Which how likely do you think that will happen after 8 long years of her playing this game successfully with you? Men manipulate in a straightforward manner, we say what we mean upfront. Women, however, play a more subtle game, a more persuasive game, because they are physically lessers. But they have tits, ass, pussy and know men love to play the white knight. She'll play off your compassion to continue her stagnation because she's not a fighter at heart. She's the chronic damsel in distress. She's learned to survive by always needing to be rescued, rather than learning to rescue herself.
May need to evaluate how I've handled everything for the last so many years
And shes good when she needs to be is the thing. Does dinner, does chores for the most part, will do usual woman "suprise I done this to the house" stuff
All good points yes
None of that Matters if she's a bitch and a half to deal with and you're not interested in smashing
But fuck it still makes me nervous to have kids with the disconnect on philosophy
And will power
Fair on the smash part too
>neo typing
Hit enter occasionally so I'm not reading a large block text lol
She does those things to appease you when she senses she's pushed you to the edge. Hence the roller coaster. She's right back at the status quote after a short intermission.
@slvr_neo correct as fuck
Kids...oof.... different philosophies on a fundamental level would eat you alive because you'll want to pass on your wisdom to your children..
But her playing the victim will make you seem like the bad guy in the kids eyes
And unfortunately they will pick up on those traits from her as well, as children tend to cling to their mothers
Right
All things to consider
@slvr_neo would those philosophies be able to be changed?
Not if they are deep set for a long period of time. It would require something drastic. Like her environment requiring her to rely on herself, and no one else. Again, it's been her survival tactic
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I'm trackin
You survive from strength from within, and networking with people who share those qualities. She survives by piggy backing off those types of people by playing off their compassion.