I need one for my new work place, can't handle those shitty flat keyboards with retarded Swiss layout

I found a few but maybe someone can point out a trustworthy one

@porco Trustworthy? And why on Ali? Might as well buy one on Amazon and receive it this century, with some semblance of consumer protection.

Because they're all 100+$ and I've seen a lot of them starting 40$ on Ali, but I don't know which ones are good

I will investigate when I'm at a computer.

Last keyboard I picked up was from within the EU, for $45 tops.

But was it MX red?

Blue.

Red cherry switches are pretty expensive

Blue ones usually go for less

We shall see.

But not right now.

ANSI or ISO btw?

Ansi would be great (smol enter key)

And if they only deliver to Germany its also fine, I have friends in Germany who can just redirect it to me

You night be right, just found that

Actual Cherry brand keyboard?

They're more expensive than others, in my experience.

Of course, my experience is years old at this point.

Yes that's what I had in mind, too, about decades ago when they actually made keyboards

From what I read, they are actually positioned rather cheap, now that they are re-entering the market

I wasn't even aware they had stopped making keyboards. 🤔

69€ for a full-size mx red keyboard, is cheaper than most others that I managed to find

I only had a quick read on some random keyboard Blog i found via Google when looking for reviews of said model

@porco https://www.amazon.de/Gigabyte-Mechanische-Tastatur-gk-force-K83-rot/dp/B01BMJ0Y4O/ perhaps?

@kontroll https://youtu.be/AU6r5YM9XS8?t=37

at the 1:00 mark is also a sound comparison

Aye, got to that point.

with the fans on their highest setting

It's very difficult to tell just from a video, of course, but it definitely sounds way louder.

+ I wouldn't personally run it at max anyway.

well they're on the highest setting

I usually have it on 1 or 2 anyways

That's something you either have to hear in person, or in a video directly comparing the exact two fans with each other, under the same circumstances.

@porco do you need a numpad?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/All-New-Magicforce-82-Key-USB-Wired-backlit-ergonomic-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Switches-Ice-Blue/32809241431.html 🤔

@kontroll that's actually a really nice one

@bentech yes I definitely need a numpad, I use it all the time unironically

Even have keybinds on my numpad

I think I'll take the one that Kontroll posted