Message from @Ape
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Tranny's want to be free of gender, so they attack it as a construct. Is that a good thing? @!dammnation3(Liberalist)
You're basically exactly the same as SJW trannies, except you're just fighting against the old "Man" of the 90's, religious morality. You know, the idea you shouldn't be a slut and you should get a job and it 's your fault if you're poor.
Freedom is a great thing because you have the options to be a dickhead to the government and you actually don't go to jail.
haha wow thats a silly argument.
and you didn't actually respond to the question i asked about the western world being more or less free.
I better call up plato and aristotle, this guy wants to be a dickhead to the government.
I actually did, I responded by saying "it doesn't matter your question is stupid"
no, that's actually the first time i got a real response. thank you for providing an answer.
let's follow this trail of logic a bit. Speaking truth to power is how an invdividual ensures that their wants and needs are protected. suggesting that protecting your own thoughts is a stupid question shows a lack of understanding of basic liberties.
@Ape, well, I think your question, "Why is freedom a good thing?" to be a very interesting question. What do you mean by good?
Exactly.
@!dammnation3(Liberalist) "Have you even READ loche" haha goddamn that's such a stupid thing to say.
You don't have an argument, just a condescending tone, that's it.
Now the idea that you presented, that speaking truth to power is how we get our wants and needs protected, that's not necessarily true.
when did i ever ask about reading philosphy books?
What if what you want is not what you need, what if you don't know what you need?
What if you're a communist? They need LESS freedom.
@Benedict XVII Well what I mean by good is in a more universalistic sense the "Extrapolation of the universe". There's a term, agape, that I think expresses this really well.
It's the love that god has for mankind, the desire to see the universe fulfilled within us essentially.
ah, agape. I've been through enough catholic school to know what that means
I think the fulfillment of the universe, reaching the potential that we have and ever increasing our potential as an expression of universal will itself is "Good".
which is why liberalistism is a faulty ideology that is dumbo's first "philosophy"
well wouldn't expanded personal freedoms allow people to reach that potential easier?
not necessarily.
Personal freedoms, from what?
moreso than no personal freedoms
from state tyranny
State tyranny? Sure.
How about gender?
Freedom from work?
if people are allowed to operate in their own interests as they see fit, then they get to determine what their own potential is and reach it.
Freedom from genetic disadvantage due to your background?
freedom from other people doing harmful stuff to you. Now what stuff is harmful is another discussion
well its positive rights vs. negative rights
Well
what if you're a communist?
harmful stuff should happen to you.
communists are ideologically wrong, but political belief doesn't justify violence
Why not?
What if they're about to be voted into power?
Civil war is violence.