hear me?

I'm okay with a trade war

DO YOU WANT A TOTAL TRADE WAR

@Strange who buys what?

annex canada, israel and the sauds

they need to know whos boss

@Deleted User can we nuke Israel?

:)

i do

but im trying to figure it out

Liberalistism is GAY

And it's the same as liberalism, it's just autist gaymers who think they're different than the left because they have REAL liberalism, and science

DEBATE ME

@Ape K

good I win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_z6auqVO9A

@Ape so, is the western world more free or less free then it was in the past?

world is defo less free than in the past, how many laws for example in the UK have been implemented or even repealed to defend the rights of citizens from tyranny. I know we got rid of ww2 ID cards at one point but they still have some authoritarian obsession to bring them back.

so, would a group that advocates for liberal principles be more necessary or less necessary?

"free"?

From what?

Why is freedom a good thing?

Tranny's want to be free of gender, so they attack it as a construct. Is that a good thing? @!dammnation3(Liberalist)

You're basically exactly the same as SJW trannies, except you're just fighting against the old "Man" of the 90's, religious morality. You know, the idea you shouldn't be a slut and you should get a job and it 's your fault if you're poor.

Freedom is a great thing because you have the options to be a dickhead to the government and you actually don't go to jail.

haha wow thats a silly argument.

and you didn't actually respond to the question i asked about the western world being more or less free.

I better call up plato and aristotle, this guy wants to be a dickhead to the government.

I actually did, I responded by saying "it doesn't matter your question is stupid"

no, that's actually the first time i got a real response. thank you for providing an answer.

let's follow this trail of logic a bit. Speaking truth to power is how an invdividual ensures that their wants and needs are protected. suggesting that protecting your own thoughts is a stupid question shows a lack of understanding of basic liberties.

@Ape, well, I think your question, "Why is freedom a good thing?" to be a very interesting question. What do you mean by good?

Exactly.

@!dammnation3(Liberalist) "Have you even READ loche" haha goddamn that's such a stupid thing to say.

You don't have an argument, just a condescending tone, that's it.

Now the idea that you presented, that speaking truth to power is how we get our wants and needs protected, that's not necessarily true.

when did i ever ask about reading philosphy books?

What if what you want is not what you need, what if you don't know what you need?

What if you're a communist? They need LESS freedom.

@Benedict XVII Well what I mean by good is in a more universalistic sense the "Extrapolation of the universe". There's a term, agape, that I think expresses this really well.

It's the love that god has for mankind, the desire to see the universe fulfilled within us essentially.