Message from @Bloodmasked

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2018-11-16 13:25:55 UTC  

@Bloodmasked I also do not want to nationalize the internet

2018-11-16 13:26:40 UTC  

are you for SMACA atleast?

2018-11-16 13:27:30 UTC  

the thing that says twitter should allow everyone to use it because its public forum

2018-11-16 13:31:32 UTC  

Define "you"

2018-11-16 13:31:53 UTC  

Define ,"define".

2018-11-16 13:32:42 UTC  

yo

2018-11-16 13:32:43 UTC  

Because officially, we don't have a position on that. I personally have put forward *some* reasonable positions in order to solve the Big Tech issue, but we haven't defined any organizational stance on the matter

2018-11-16 13:33:01 UTC  

what is the issue

2018-11-16 13:33:03 UTC  

Anti-trust tbh.

2018-11-16 13:33:47 UTC  

anti trust?

2018-11-16 13:33:51 UTC  

@Bloodmasked Wouldn't that prevent servers like this one from removing people from them.

2018-11-16 13:33:57 UTC  

like do you think facebook/twitter/youtube is a monopoly

2018-11-16 13:33:58 UTC  

Smaca that is.

2018-11-16 13:34:02 UTC  

Yes.

2018-11-16 13:34:24 UTC  

I think they are a monopoly.

2018-11-16 13:34:31 UTC  

smaca applies to whatever they determine as 'public forums' its somewhere like in the range of hundreds of millions of users

2018-11-16 13:34:54 UTC  

smaca is a shit idea because yes it doesnt work for discord, more so subreddits

2018-11-16 13:35:26 UTC  

So there is some arbitrary number that is set at which something becomes a public forum?

2018-11-16 13:36:02 UTC  

yes and id say that you have to draw lines like that because the whole idea of 'antitrust' is arbitrary

2018-11-16 13:36:38 UTC  

Yea I'm not opposed to some degree of arbitrariness.

2018-11-16 13:37:54 UTC  

how do u justify the platforms as monopolies, gab has already been created and still exists after having all its backend/providers pulled

2018-11-16 13:38:47 UTC  

I didn't put forth the notion that it is somewhat arbitrary as critique, though I can see how it comes off that way via text.

2018-11-16 13:41:05 UTC  

monopolies dont exist outside of government regulation such as by favors

2018-11-16 13:42:01 UTC  

for example, if you demand a particular good but there is only 1 person who produces it that doesnt mean its bad

2018-11-16 13:42:17 UTC  

@Bloodmasked People who've fled to gab etc are those who aren't welcome on the larger platforms, those who are on the larger platforms are there because they don't have to leave / don't want to have decreased view / subscriber growth.

2018-11-16 13:43:06 UTC  

why does youtube owe it to its creators to provide maximum growth

2018-11-16 13:43:18 UTC  

is a company not allowed to have opinions on who enters their business?

2018-11-16 13:43:44 UTC  

It doesn't owe it to them I'm talking about the incentive for creators to stay on that platform.

2018-11-16 13:44:29 UTC  

so why do u want to punish these companies

2018-11-16 13:45:07 UTC  

Also wouldn't your legislation make it so I couldn't create some to a specific need / desire ie this is a wallpaper subreddit. Haven't you removed the ability for me to remove non wallpaper posts past a certain point?

2018-11-16 13:45:20 UTC  

i dont agree with smaca at all

2018-11-16 13:45:33 UTC  

its not even good if i were to support the concept behind it

2018-11-16 13:46:54 UTC  

You use gab as an example but competitors like gab and bitchute are being censored and deplatformed for not subscribing to the silicon valley ideology

2018-11-16 13:47:53 UTC  

why would you want to put the state in charge of deciding who can think

2018-11-16 13:48:06 UTC  

Me?

2018-11-16 13:48:09 UTC  

silicon valley is mainstream because thats the culture

2018-11-16 13:48:20 UTC  

Oh.

2018-11-16 13:48:34 UTC  

Just seems like anti-trust is the best way to go tbh.

2018-11-16 13:48:41 UTC  

I dont want to put the state in charge but somwthing definitely needs to be done

2018-11-16 13:49:00 UTC  

create your own silicon valley

2018-11-16 13:49:25 UTC  

Considering credit card companies are now getting involved its only a matter of time before banks start refusing to deal with certain ppl or businesses