Message from @D.kota

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2019-02-26 10:54:17 UTC  

Oof thats cringy

2019-02-26 12:59:58 UTC  

Uuuuggghhhhh

2019-02-26 13:00:26 UTC  

but is it *actually* no-deal brexit?

2019-02-26 13:01:11 UTC  

theresa sucks
she's gonna go down as one of the worst PMs in UK history probably

2019-02-26 13:03:44 UTC  

Also

2019-02-26 13:04:05 UTC  

The englishes organs are now presumed state property

2019-02-26 13:04:17 UTC  

Unless you opt out

2019-02-26 13:17:41 UTC  

Yeah same here

2019-02-26 13:18:48 UTC  

@Emile Borovich Interesting point to bring up, do you believe that dead ppl have rights?

2019-02-26 13:19:18 UTC  

No, but i think we should respect their final wishes as a courtesy

2019-02-26 13:19:37 UTC  

Same here

2019-02-26 13:19:54 UTC  

Im all for organ donation, i just dont want the state presuming they have express rights to our corpses

2019-02-26 13:20:23 UTC  

Doing that could be like the government having control of history and culture.

2019-02-26 13:20:34 UTC  

Yup I was actually already registered for everything before they made it opt out

2019-02-26 13:21:06 UTC  

Im not partially because im lazy and partially because thatd be me admitting i can die

2019-02-26 13:21:18 UTC  

Miss me with that gay death shit

2019-02-26 13:21:20 UTC  

@D.kota I'm not getting the point

2019-02-26 13:21:57 UTC  

I mean if the dead don't have rights, then the government would be allowed to control the dead.

2019-02-26 13:22:13 UTC  

government-run zombie hordes are too dangerous for one group to control, clearly

2019-02-26 13:22:46 UTC  

Problem is when someone dies, objectively theyre just a mass of dead organic cells

2019-02-26 13:22:55 UTC  

They remain human in appearance alone

2019-02-26 13:23:03 UTC  

@D.kota things dont have rights

2019-02-26 13:23:11 UTC  

Rights are something you afford the living

2019-02-26 13:23:29 UTC  

We just generally dont abuse bodies because its immoral

2019-02-26 13:23:29 UTC  

Well rights are something the living have

2019-02-26 13:24:21 UTC  

But that depends if you believe in "god"(I prefer societal) given rights or state given rights

2019-02-26 13:25:04 UTC  

A continuous extension of the self, though. Rights apply to the person, and the Constitution at least doesn't differentiate the living from the dead. The body, at least rationally, is part of the self.

2019-02-26 13:25:37 UTC  

😩 is this gonna turn into a philosophical debate

2019-02-26 13:25:42 UTC  

It might

2019-02-26 13:25:50 UTC  

Its like reverse abortion

2019-02-26 13:26:08 UTC  

When does a human stop being a human and become a lump of cells?

2019-02-26 13:26:28 UTC  

Is a decaying corpse human?

2019-02-26 13:26:48 UTC  

Is an ash pile human?

2019-02-26 13:27:24 UTC  

What about those tree coffins where they plants a sapling that uses your body as nutrients

2019-02-26 13:29:16 UTC  

I would even go as far as to say that your body isnt you, it's your property for sure. But the same way as a tool would be a part of you

2019-02-26 13:29:36 UTC  

It's a tool for your consciousness to use to do things

2019-02-26 13:29:50 UTC  

Id say a human is the combination of the consiousness and body

2019-02-26 13:30:03 UTC  

Body doesnt need to be organic mind you

2019-02-26 13:30:29 UTC  

A consciousness and a ability to impact the world you also could say