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they arent
like dravidian civilizations barely had a military but they still had a force to instill order
but you cant use a longstanding trend to prove the status quo will remain that way
yeah but they suggesting it wont with little evidence is basically insane
im not saying that it wont
im saying that its possible that it might not
Of course it's possible
Who would deny that it's possible
What I'm denying is that you can ever get to that point
isnt that the same thing?
the supermarket shipping thing reminded me of this video
seen it
Container ships are amazing
All pay respect to the inventor of the shipping container
the only two stroke engine that deserves to exist is diesel two strokes used in ships
imo
but yeah, arguing on the basis of the status quo doesnt really make sense because things can and do change all the time
All I asked for was one example
and i dont have any
because it would be a first in human history
but a lot of things were firsts in human history
so whats your point?
like change occurring doesnt mean that the state of reality just magically shifts
a car was never in space before
doesnt deny its possibility
Again
Technology != social order
but its the same thing
You can change our material conditions
Not our human nature
yeah but were talking about having a civilization without a state
in terms of argument
social order changes all the time
look at the roman civilization
it lasted for *centuries*
and a car been thrust into space isnt an unpredictable change
About two thousand years, yeah
and things have changed so much in only a few of those