Message from @laurefinwë

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2019-06-11 14:44:16 UTC  

>tradespeople

2019-06-11 14:44:17 UTC  

That's what my Dad does now, he started his own company with just himself and Mom so now he's in a corporate tax bracket and contracts all of his work out.

2019-06-11 14:44:22 UTC  

Now that's understandable

2019-06-11 14:44:26 UTC  

Yeah

2019-06-11 14:44:36 UTC  

A lot of maritimers are physical laborers.

2019-06-11 14:44:43 UTC  

The Mexicans of Canada really

2019-06-11 14:44:43 UTC  

Based af

2019-06-11 14:45:01 UTC  

Or Hohols of Canada

2019-06-11 14:45:19 UTC  

Nah we have Ukrainians out in Alberta and the praries.

2019-06-11 14:45:26 UTC  

They came here during the 1800's for whatever reason

2019-06-11 14:45:57 UTC  

My grandpa hated them and my aunt married an RCMP officer with Ukrainian heritage so that was always interesting dinner discussion.

2019-06-11 14:46:28 UTC  

Prolly cause Russian empire was poor af then and you could get sent to Siberia for advocating independent Ukraine

2019-06-11 14:46:36 UTC  

Just like for any other nation of Russian empire

2019-06-11 14:46:50 UTC  

That was also the time when a lot of Poles emigrated to the New World

2019-06-11 14:47:32 UTC  

Mostly from Congress Kingdom of Poland, but also from Prussia (Grand Duchy of Poznan) and Austria (Kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia)

2019-06-11 14:50:48 UTC  

Yeah I got some family that came here around that time as well to be coal miners.

2019-06-11 14:50:54 UTC  

From east Prussia

2019-06-11 14:51:26 UTC  

Yeah, but they were Germans and from German part of the Prussia, so it's a bit of a different thing

2019-06-11 14:51:51 UTC  

In case of Poles and Ukrainians it was often too avoid persecution

2019-06-11 14:51:54 UTC  

Yeet.

2019-06-11 14:52:03 UTC  

Because of political views

2019-06-11 14:52:03 UTC  

Yeah I think the Ukrainians here was facing some religious opposition

2019-06-11 14:52:07 UTC  

Or something like that.

2019-06-11 14:52:07 UTC  

And taking part in uprisings

2019-06-11 14:52:59 UTC  

I never heard about that tbh, most Ukrainians were Orthodox anyway, and the rest were Unitarians, which are basically Catholic Orthodox, so I doubt it was anything serious

2019-06-11 14:54:42 UTC  

I think it was unitarians.

2019-06-11 14:54:51 UTC  

I'd have to look it up to be certain though.

2019-06-11 14:55:05 UTC  

Weird, but you may be right

2019-06-11 15:04:34 UTC  

A quick wikipedia search tells me they came here because WWI kinda sucked and they were having a famine as usual.

2019-06-11 15:04:41 UTC  

Understandable

2019-06-11 15:04:58 UTC  

Didn't WWI happened in 1900s though?
You were talking about 1800s

2019-06-11 15:05:19 UTC  

Yeah the initial settlers came in the 1800s but the vast majority came during WWI

2019-06-11 15:06:21 UTC  

They had few independent and semi-independent Ukrainian countries during and after the WWI
I still feel bad for them because of how we betrayed them during the Polish-Bolshevik war

2019-06-11 15:09:18 UTC  

We had a small power struggle back then, and one side promised Ukrainians that they will have an independent state in the Intermarium federation if they will retract their claims for eastern Małopolska and if they will help us in the war with Bolsheviks
But it was the nationalists that were singing the treaty in Riga, and they were like "no thanks, take these Hohol lands if you want Soviets, we're just gonna take the westernmost part we deem suitable for polonisation"

2019-06-11 15:10:25 UTC  

But well, when the another World War happened they did the whole Volhynia massacre thing, so I guess we're more than even now.

2019-06-11 15:11:17 UTC  

My favourite thing about Ukrainians and WWI was the whole Free Territory thing

2019-06-11 15:11:25 UTC  

Makhno was a real based fucker

2019-06-11 15:25:24 UTC  

Is that the anarchist commune that lasted for 2 years that every anarchist likes to cite?

2019-06-11 15:26:41 UTC  

Well, there were a few of them actually, but yeah, that was like one of the most important in the history

2019-06-11 16:11:34 UTC  

That was fast

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2019-06-11 17:18:16 UTC  

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