Oh huh

"neo"

I confused the NPD for a diff party my bad

AfD?

Yeah

Not neo-nazi, but still total shitheads

>shitheads

I think AFD are alright, I don't agree with the methodology

The only way to get anywhere via electoral processes is to sell out

Especially in Germany today

There's a lot of absolute freaks in AfD
I mean, some MPs want a revision of the eastern border just for example

And the rhetorics and views of this party in general are pretty damn controversial, in bad meaning of this word

What is controversial today will be trivial tomorrow

Okay, so here's a short list of what members of this party said or did in recent years:
-sharing a picture of Hitler through social network sites, subtittled "Adolf, please come back! Germany needs you"
-saying that Germans should be proud of "Wermacht's achievements"
-sharing videos blaiming Poland for outbreak of WWII
-saying that Stettin should come back to Germany
-stating (in reference to the Berlin Holocaust Memorial) that "Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital"
They were literally kicked out from ECR, which is imo quite of an achievement itself

I mean they have a point with the Holocaust memorial

Well, yeah, I can kind of understand that
But it just makes for a bigger picture, showing what is their view on certain topics, etc.

Oh, and I forgot, they would really like to see all central and eastern immigrants deported and their members often show anti-polish stances

They've got a point about all the Polish stuff too

You guys shouldn't have started WWII

We're very sorry
Also for killing the Jews

My ancestors died like little bitches sad!

@laurefinwë
>sharing a picture of Hitler through social network sites, subtittled "Adolf, please come back! Germany needs you"
That's good I agree
>saying that Germans should be proud of "Wermacht's achievements"
Yeah you should be.
>sharing videos blaiming Poland for outbreak of WWII
Poland elected a dickweed who ruined diplomatic relations with Germany causing the war. He legit could have fleeced Germany for usage of the corridor while retaining it as Polish territory, which could and would have resulted in both sides prospering economically and otherwise and there wouldn't have been a war between the two over that.
>saying that Stettin should come back to Germany
Yeah it should
>stating (in reference to the Berlin Holocaust Memorial) that "Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital"
Yeah that's correct and they should tear it down

>they would really like to see all central and eastern immigrants deported and their members often show anti-polish stances
I don't see a problem with this. Maybe the Pole hate is a bit much, Poles are like weird fucking...
56%ers of Europe so they don't meld well with neither Germans nor Slavs but it's like
A long standing conflict over land I guess. It's understandable when you consider the history behind it.

They should honestly stop fighting each other tho

>yeah, you should be
Wait, are you implying I'm German?
I don't expect everybody to know Polish history, but what you have just said is just misinformation
The first thing is, that Reich haven't even officialy inform Polish authorities about their ultimatum and didn't officialy ask for any response
The second thing is that 31 VIII Hitler finally signed an order setting the date of attack on Poland on 1 IX (the ultimatum was first shown to the British embassier on the 29/30 VIII night) and the only time it was officialy shown to any Polish official was 31 VIII and that was a Polish embassier who hadn't any necessary authority to do anything
And the third thing is that even if Poland would have somehow signed the ultimatum, it wouldn't change anything, Germany was preapring to this war since months and the whole ultimatum thing was only a diplomatic move, like the Gliwice radiostation incident

Also, implying that bad Polish-German relations and the outbreak of the war are somehow the fault of Polish government is laughable
Our foreign relations were absolute shit during interbellum, but in the case of Germany Polish government haven't done anything to piss them off
It was just the ideology of NSDAP and Hitler's own ambitions that led to the outbreak of WWII

And of course Germany's strive to revise its eastern borders, that predates NSDAP's rule and was a thing basically since the treaty of Versailles

>are somehow the fault of Polish government is laughable
It really was

They were belligerent faggots they caused it.

I've just proved you that's not true

Sanation government (same as the preceding ones tbh) was shitty, but there was nothing they could do

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

They should have ran with a government that wasn't so shit

The events leading up to the invasion spanned back years

It was a very complicated issue but ultimately the blame is on Poland

They maneuvered awfully from the start and what happened to them became inescapable as you said.

Had they been competent none of it would have turned out that way

Okay, but can you prove it somehow?
What exactly could they do better?
Also, just fyi, the sanation government wasn't elected, it was established by a military coup

Germans were just mad for treaty of Versailles and every German government was obviously anti-Polish, since their goal was always to annex territories lost because of the treaty

You blame them for that? The territories in particular they wanted were majority German

Except they weren't, I posted ethnic maps of central Europe here multiple times
Also, while Weimar governments only wanted the former Prussian land, NSDAP's government had all this "Lebensraum" and "pushing to east" ideology
So, yeah, Polish government could let Hitler annex Poland's territories and then let him slaughter 70-80% of the population (I don't remember the exact percentage, there was a planned percentage of every Slavic and Baltic nation that had to be exterminated or resetteled behind Ural)
But the only difference between that and irl scenario is that irl Poland tried to resist Hitler
So imo there still would be a WWII, just Poland would be in a much worse situation when the war would eventually end