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Unless Bulgaria was absolutely empty before Turkish arrival.
Well, just like Slavs and Hungarians
So
And not, Turkish, Turkic
They are very sensitive about the difference from what I've found
Hungarians are certainly up for debate, but I dont recall slavs migrating from the steppe.
Hungarians are basically magyarised Slavs, since they've always were a minority there
But the question still remains
Hungary got super fucked over the years and then moreso after the treaties cut up the nation around the 1800's. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Hungarian was more German than Magyar at this point.
And even if you insist on stating that Slavs are white, wouldn't the mixing with other steppe people make us non-white or at least non-pure in result?
Yes it would, and that's where the differences lie.
Nobody is white
Slavs, out of the box are white. However your average Russian isn't 100% pure slav.
The origin of Slavs is debatable, but I think that most of ethnologists agree that they come from the Steppe
Well, no one is a "pure" Slav after centuries of mixing with Tatars, Avars, Turkic people and different Finno-Ugric tribes
And Germs of course, but that would probably make them more, not less white
Yeah and then Stalin's rapid collectivism pretty much guaranteed that Russians were gonna be an asiatic people from then on.
Moving people around to all sorts of places all over the USSR.
How jewish of him
Yeah (((weird)))
I wouldn't say that anything that Stalin did would matter at this point
Relocations in Russia has begun during the Imperial rule
From what I know of imperial rule the shit that the Tsar was pushing was more akin to colonialism and settlement of the interior. Not based on shoring up labor shortages or getting access to resources like Stalin was pushing so hard for.
Although it was surely about resources, I dont think it was done in the same vein as Stalin's crack at it.
I don't see much difference tbh
That said I dont know as much about imperial Russia.
Baltic fleet
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The main difference is that there were much more Poles and Lithuanians resettled during the Tsarist rule, but that's pretty obvious
There's still a considerable number of Poles in Syberia and Kazakhstan because of that
In my country there is problem
I mean, because of GULAG to, but during the communist rule it was mainly Russians and Ukrainians who would get resettled East
What's the problem and what's the country?
Ignore that
How many people were sent to the gulags roughly?
Hard to say, especially because we don't have access to the official data
If we're speaking only about people send to lagers in gulag system, it was few hundreds of thousands iirc
>Figures supposedly compiled by the Gulag administration itself (and released by Soviet historians in 1989) show that a total of 10 million people were sent to the camps in the period from 1934 to 1947. The true figures remain unknown.
Shit, I probably mixed the numbers with numbers of Poles in lagers
>Lagers
I'm pretty sure I've heard the number 400 000
I too enjoy the taste of a lager.