Or integrated.

Can't be fuckin havin that.

And it's a dominate or be dominated world.

state power against outside forces: good

against me: bad

Collectives are stronger than individuals, so your collective should strive to be the strongest.

tbh a retarded huge military is the only thing the republicans have right

the collective is the problem

because masses of people are retarded

and only look out for their own desires

That's why they need the guiding hand of the state to make sure they can't veer off the right path.

which are often counter productive to their happiness and long term surival

the state is made up of the worst people in the collective

never trust someone that desires power over you

Lemmings want to be led, so you need leaders to keep them in line.

only trust authorities that are there by virtue of nature

>lemmings want

Razem in 2015: "fuck SLD commied, jail cell for Leszek Miller!"
Razem in 2019: *participates in elections on a "Electoral Committee SLD" list

Kukiz 2015: "PSL is an organised criminal organisation"
Kukiz 2019: *participates in elections on a "Electoral Committee PSL - Polska Razem" list

That's why you should never trust politicians

theres your problem

Fucking shitheads

Who else is gonna be in the retarded huge military.

they've asked me the same shit worded in 5 different ways

Also, it's true that collective is stronger than an individual
But state, especially a highly authoritarian one, is the shitties type of collective

And yeah, it's true

Well you're not gonna enforce anarchy without one. How else are you supposed to stop people from trading their goods with eachother?

The fact that people can't decide for themselves shouldn't be an argument

Or even maintain anarchy? What happens when people collectivize and form their own state in your anarchist collective?

That's why I always say that merely toppling the government isn't enough

There always must be some over-arching sense of authority, otherwise people will deviate.

First we have to convince people that the freedom is the way to go and that they do actually want anarchy

You gotta have some force to prevent that deviation.

how bout we send everyone back to the stone age

>what happens when people collectivize and form their own state
They collectivize and form their own state.

breadpilled

That's why AnPrim is the only justifiable form of anarchy. Because deviation is prevented by being bludgeoned to death with a rock.

Which if attacks an anarchist collective/federation will be destroyed by the said collective/federation

Everything else relies on good will concepts.

Not really

Anarchists only strive to achieve anarchy for people who want it, and their main goal is to convince as many people possible that they want it
If people want to live in an authoritarian state outside of territories controled by anarchists, they can go fuck yourself

>convince people

AnPrim is at least honest about how force should be used. Anarchists are always shakey about muh individual rights and how you actually maintain anarchy, and even ensure that outsiders don't shit all over you with a massive invasion force.