Science has been wrong initially before, the way we learn things is initially we make a prediction. Take the concept of plate tectonics, our theory had holes in it to begin with, but as more evidence was gathered the theory was improved until we have out current understanding today. Back in the 60s the majority of reports supported the fact that temperatures were rising due to greenhouses.

@Normal Man aye

science is a method of acquiring and perfecting knowledge, not that knowledge itself

that science is willing to change when it finds itself proven wrong should be taken as a token of its reliability (and the other way around: when the academic establishment maintains a position in the face of increasingly overwhelming evidence, thats usually a sign that something is being covered up or suppressed)

What caused climate-changes before?

Solar activity

Mainly

It then invoked a positive or negative feedback loop

short-term climate changes, like the pleistocene alternations of glacials and interglacials, are usually the straightforward result of solar cycles

Issue is this

Solar output isn't the driving factor

long-term ones, like the Cretaceous hothouse, usually have similar causes, but then set off a feedback loop: the changing circumstances affect the biological production of co2, which then leads to changes that last longer and are much more dramatic

human-made climate change is similarly concerning not necessarily because we as a species are having such an insurmountable effect, but because we are setting feedback loops in motion (like the acidification of the oceans) that can lead to absolutely disastrous consequences in just a couple decades

here in the netherlands, which as you might know is partially under sea level, we are already making serious plans to abandon the western half of the country, because our waterworks just cant handle the rising sea levels

I like global-warming tbh

is always to cold here

and the land rises still from last ice-age here

so no probs w that

The issue is that it won't benefit you, look at the Sahara, it's expanding and taking over farm land. There will be a massive migration crisis when people cannot feed themselves, or when they run out of water. Where will they go? They'll go to temperate, first world countries.

there's just to many ppl in there

aye

the climate problem's role in the refugee crisis is underappreciated

Oh shit, this is flat-earth related topic also!:
"Ice, water and mantle rocks have mass, and as they move around, they exert a gravitational pull on other masses towards them. Thus, the gravity field, which is sensitive to all mass on the surface and within the Earth, is affected by the redistribution of ice/melted water on the surface of the Earth and the flow of mantle rocks within.[17]

Today, more than 6000 years after the last deglaciation terminated, the flow of mantle material back to the glaciated area causes the overall shape of the Earth to become less oblate. This change in the topography of Earth's surface affects the long-wavelength components of the gravity field.[citation needed] "

So the ice makes the earth flat 🙂

lol

its saying _less_ oblate though <:thonkdonk:392836776852717578>

oblate1
Dictionary result for oblate
/ˈɒbleɪt/
adjectiveGeometry
adjective: oblate

(of a spheroid) flattened at the poles.

So it makes it less flat 🙃

aye

ye dat way 😄

Love how you kept the [Citation needed] in there too 😂

so do i.[citation needed]

it has some good parts anyhow.. "sea level change due to deglaciation of the last glacial maximum (postglacial sea level change), deformation of the land and ocean floor and other factors. Thus, to understand global warming from sea level change, one must be able to separate all these factors, especially postglacial rebound, since it is one of the leading factors"

...
"Increasing pressure due to the weight of the ice during glaciation may have suppressed melt generation and volcanic activities below Iceland and Greenland. On the other hand, decreasing pressure due to deglaciation can increase the melt production and volcanic activities by 20-30 times"

whats the source material

@xxxjxxx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound 😐

@.𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓭 Why not make several debate channels for this issue? If people like debates, you'd keep more people around and even grow by providing more channels to use. Especially for common or heated topics. Just a thought.

No

Could you help me understand why that is? It seems beneficial for everyone, no?

i have so far not gotten the impression that chad's leadership style is very rooted in consensus