Message from @ashy bravo

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2019-03-03 03:16:32 UTC  

@EzkealSutekh hmm, its an interesting point. The context is slightly different and when it comes to law and diplomacy it can get very technical and pedantic.

2019-03-03 03:16:34 UTC  

that’s their literal rationale

2019-03-03 03:17:02 UTC  

We only genocided a small percentage of the natives. 90% or more died from disease long before they met an European settler.

2019-03-03 03:17:16 UTC  

but not all jews are zionists, to be fair

2019-03-03 03:18:30 UTC  

Not that it makes it better, but the actual process is what differs. So combined with the implementation, geopolitical climate at the time, and the aftermath of the war, a Jewish state was created and a native one was not in the US

2019-03-03 03:18:45 UTC  

Blankets full of smallpox were handed out to some native tribes. (Siege of for pitt) 1763 They were killed by disease yes, but it was done deliberately.

2019-03-03 03:18:53 UTC  

died in typhus even without camping 🙂

2019-03-03 03:18:58 UTC  

I'm sorry, but that's not true. @EzkealSutekh

2019-03-03 03:19:11 UTC  

Germ theory hadn't even been discovered/invented

2019-03-03 03:20:06 UTC  

Additionally, the 90% figure I refer to is in the first few decades after contact.

2019-03-03 03:20:42 UTC  

There were massive and thriving societies all over the American south and northeast that we're ravaged by disease long before Europeans showed up there.

2019-03-03 03:20:47 UTC  

didn’t the Mongolians catapult bubonic-plague infested corpses into walled European cities?

2019-03-03 03:21:19 UTC  

It is true, it was not invented yet, however they were not stupid, one can see if someone gets a disease from an object that it is the cause, i have sources, here: https://books.google.ca/books?id=UeaN0-Ra64oC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false https://www.jstor.org/stable/27774278 herokee Medicine, Colonial Germs: An Indigenous Nation's Fight Against Smallpox, 1518–1824; Paul Kelton; University of Oklahoma Press; 2015; Pgs. 102–105

2019-03-03 03:21:20 UTC  

As in before they had interaction

2019-03-03 03:21:34 UTC  

germ theory mightve not been formulated in the modern scientific sense, but they probably had a notion about disease contagion

2019-03-03 03:21:48 UTC  

There were trade networks between the Aztecs and the Ameri-indians in North America

2019-03-03 03:21:57 UTC  

And that's how it spread all over the continent

2019-03-03 03:22:39 UTC  

Well then we have to agree to disagree

2019-03-03 03:22:57 UTC  

in reality, The North American indians were essentially holocausted for real

2019-03-03 03:23:04 UTC  

^

2019-03-03 03:23:34 UTC  

especially the intentional buffalo extinction

2019-03-03 03:23:35 UTC  

Not in the same manner.

2019-03-03 03:23:43 UTC  

It was a Genocide for sure.

2019-03-03 03:24:02 UTC  

But what made the Holocaust shocking was the methodology.

2019-03-03 03:24:07 UTC  

wiped out the main source of food for the plains indians

2019-03-03 03:24:13 UTC  

Industrialized murder on a continental scale.

2019-03-03 03:24:54 UTC  

Germany literally went full retard and devoted essential resources and supply chain to their death factories.

2019-03-03 03:25:16 UTC  

the Americans and British firebombed entire Japanese and German cities off the map

2019-03-03 03:25:41 UTC  

100s of thousands of innocents burned alive

2019-03-03 03:25:51 UTC  

*"what was shocking was how inefficient and retarded germany was about murdering millions of people."*

- somebody probably, i dunno

2019-03-03 03:25:57 UTC  

It was an assembly line of death. Loaded into cattle trains. Marched into the chamber, then buried in a mass grave or cremated

2019-03-03 03:26:18 UTC  

There is absolutely no proof of industrialized murder hollywood style

2019-03-03 03:26:20 UTC  

So of course it shocked the world.

2019-03-03 03:26:36 UTC  

There is proof of industrialized murder

2019-03-03 03:26:42 UTC  

Dont even try to deny it

2019-03-03 03:26:44 UTC  

how about Nuking two entire major japanese cities off the map

2019-03-03 03:26:54 UTC  

Additionally, there was a bit of racism involved. "How could a proper white, civilized, Christian, nation do such a thing?!"

2019-03-03 03:27:07 UTC  

where's teh proof?

2019-03-03 03:27:17 UTC  

Hence why no one made a big stink about the Russian gulags or the Japanese atrocities

2019-03-03 03:27:33 UTC  

Americans were just as racist

2019-03-03 03:27:48 UTC  

and work-camps owned by americans