there's not much to expand to nomore

That settlement is illegal, because the resolution of britain to create the state was within some boundaries which has been exceeded.

yeah, they essentially occupy all of the Palestinian territory

Bah, they took it after being attacked. That's the only thing I agree with the Israelis on. Spoils of war, its theirs now.

I'm more concerned with the illegal occupation of German lands by Poland.

they fund terrorist groups in Syria and Iraq

more peaceful world... how can we know if it has made it worse or better?

@xxxjxxx statically the safest most peaceful time on Earth.

Well, the north american settlers were also attacked by the indians before their forceful removal from their lands, it doesnt make it any less immoral.

No large scale conflicts just small regional conflicts that are barely more than skirmishes

@EzkealSutekh no, they were literally attacked by a coalition of Arab nation's

Israel is a jewish supremacist apartheid state

more peeps ded in conflicts than the few in "holocaust"

they have giant walls that keep Arabs out

So id say from a war perspective the UN is working. No large conflicts

and they shoot them on sight whenever they throw rocks at Israeli soldiers as a form of protest against occupation

no questions asked

I know the history of israel and palestine, but again, if someone suddenly comes into your house and occupies your room, like the european settlers in america did, then of course they will attack, you would also remove any stranger from your house. And dont tell me its because "they had the land before" well the native north americans also had the land before, maybe they should be granted the US back then?

...and in any case - the Germans saved us from communism. Can't know if UN really caused anything for better for can't know alternatives

@EzkealSutekh and the justification they use for the occupation is that God gave them that land

@EzkealSutekh hmm, its an interesting point. The context is slightly different and when it comes to law and diplomacy it can get very technical and pedantic.

that’s their literal rationale

We only genocided a small percentage of the natives. 90% or more died from disease long before they met an European settler.

but not all jews are zionists, to be fair

Not that it makes it better, but the actual process is what differs. So combined with the implementation, geopolitical climate at the time, and the aftermath of the war, a Jewish state was created and a native one was not in the US

Blankets full of smallpox were handed out to some native tribes. (Siege of for pitt) 1763 They were killed by disease yes, but it was done deliberately.

died in typhus even without camping 🙂

I'm sorry, but that's not true. @EzkealSutekh

Germ theory hadn't even been discovered/invented

Additionally, the 90% figure I refer to is in the first few decades after contact.

There were massive and thriving societies all over the American south and northeast that we're ravaged by disease long before Europeans showed up there.

didn’t the Mongolians catapult bubonic-plague infested corpses into walled European cities?

It is true, it was not invented yet, however they were not stupid, one can see if someone gets a disease from an object that it is the cause, i have sources, here: https://books.google.ca/books?id=UeaN0-Ra64oC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false https://www.jstor.org/stable/27774278 herokee Medicine, Colonial Germs: An Indigenous Nation's Fight Against Smallpox, 1518–1824; Paul Kelton; University of Oklahoma Press; 2015; Pgs. 102–105

As in before they had interaction

germ theory mightve not been formulated in the modern scientific sense, but they probably had a notion about disease contagion

There were trade networks between the Aztecs and the Ameri-indians in North America

And that's how it spread all over the continent

Well then we have to agree to disagree

in reality, The North American indians were essentially holocausted for real

^

especially the intentional buffalo extinction