I think IE has its place

Just as we do

They do not seek to gather the radicals, they try gathering those who would probably turn out to be shitlibs

So long as they help out with adding people to our broader cause I think they're fine, every movement will have different subcultures imo

The counter signalling is fucking gay though, on their part

I would argue that Hitler, NS germany and the general WN movement have different goals.

I agree

They'll help us get there though

Hitler wanted to unite Germans under one political system for the benefit of Germans

"Many right-wingers are sincerely concerned, I know, about my battles with men such as Maguire, Snowden, Welch, Hargis, et al., and my revelations of what they really are. “They are doing good,” I am told, “why not let them go about their business their own way. They are helping. Don’t hurt them”.

I maintain they are only giving the appearance of helping-but are actually hurting.

Before a mass of people will rise up and do anything effective and forceful about a tyrannical situation, there must be built up a certain emotional pressure. A firecracker has not the force of a rifle bullet because it explodes harmlessly in all directions. But the gas from a rifle bullet cannot escape, except by forcing the bullet out at terrific speed, because it is confined, directed into useful channels.

As long as Welch and all the rest of his ilk, rich and poor, can give themselves the illusion of “fighting the Jews” by exploding the pressure inside of them verbally and harmlessly, in all directions, and without ever hurting a Jew traitor, they keep the pressure we need to get mad and fight from ever building up." - GLR

I just get annoyed that IE keeps talking shit about the NFs WN1.0 people and how our black uniforms and skin head friends are bad optics

We are so desperate that we want to unite white people under any political system (except communism) for the benefit of white people.

And we should be in white and tan like them

And we need to ditch the skinheads

I know I shouldn't let it bother me but wen they go about satin that do to CVille and optics "National Socialists" will find them selfs not welcome at rallies ..

Yes, that's an interesting debate I've had over the years - would the people in these groups join a more radical group if they didn't have a cucked alternative, or would they be active at all? I've lately come to believe these people would, if there was no less radical group and the other alternative was watching the destruction of their country would just become full on nazis. I've seen so, so many people who joined NRM as pretty much alt-right and later became full on nazis, because they saw it was the only real alternative to the System. Taking the most radical pro-white position is always the best tactical choice in my opinion - you attract the most valuable radicals and fanatics, but also those who aren't so radical yet, but are adamant they have to act for their race, no matter what. The media attacks us like no tomorrow and we're THE big bad nazis over here, called white ISIS and whatnot of course. The media will never respect you, and we don't ask for their respect, but we have demonstrated to our fellow whites no attack from the cops, reds or newspapers will bring us down, and that is genuine respectability, only thing that matters.

brb

You don't have to start all out war against IE. Just saying their denouncement means fuck all lol

The trouble is the water and power still works, and you can still buy a loaf of break for 1.50

bread.

Loaf of break

Bread

I think the outreach IE does makes them a good entry point

Normies getting used to seeing pro white messaging that they do it's a good thing, even if they're not ready to take the natsoc pill

A lot of kids do fist join IS then see us in action and come over after Cvill I know a few IE that are looking on coming to us one Proud boy also

Get normies used to at least pictures of statues, I wouldn't necessarily understand this is even pro-white message unless I knew to associate Roman statues with alt right Roman Empire fans.

https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2017/03/identity-evropa-our-destiny-is-ours-683x1024.jpg

I just advocate sending the strongest possible pro-white message. Even if you're not ready to swallow it, you'll get "used to it" like Hadrian said.

Another example is DailyStormer which reaches 400x more people than AmRen, again not despite of the tone, but because of it. Radical doesn't equal having smaller appeal necessarily.

True

We're at the point where having multiple different approaches helps

I think I may have posted this before, but I'll repost it as it is relevant to the conversation. @Kombat-Unit https://youtu.be/ZcHp-A0wVt0

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Post-double drinks at the pub in a TWP polo nationalism

on gab, @wocassity says this "Disrupt the counter protector actions by changing/shifting plans." http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Organizers-cancel-Saturday-s-far-right-rally-in-11961550.php

I'd like to hear opinions on that. Not the article per se, but the tactic of forcing them to mobilize resources.... feigned rallies.

TBH it looks bad fore the right and emboldens the left

Thanks. I wanted honest opinions

They get to say one more time we win and the "Nazis" louse thus making them stronger

The best plan I see is to do flash rallies / secret rallies with out telling the government just showing up with speakers and equipment and doing it fast and then getting oitb

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yes flash rallies is a good strategy.