Alice is outdated

yeah alice is poopy

external frame in general is pretty outdated

Anyone who is running Alice in a serious maner or alice style pack is retarded larping

unless youre using one of those fancy hunting packs or whatever

I can't stand Alice

And the "improved alice" frames are hot shit

also the side pockets can be rigged up as a really retarded looking pack, if you really wanted

for the centurio

which i thought is quite funny

That looks super unbalanced and hard to use

yeah

I felt that my issued MOLLE ruck's frame was subpar when wearing kit, since the frame is ergonomic to a bare back and shit. Trying to ruck up a mountain in 4 feet of snow is hard enough without the frame wobbling around.
The ALICE frame fit pretty snug around my back plate and helped hold it still

the straps go on on uh, molle (i think?) on the back of them

Legit looks like it puts weight where your back is not made to support it

not molle

heres what they look like rigged up on the back

lol

nutsack pack

the real use for them though is to zipper them to the sides of the pack

Bruh

theyre compatible with most berghaus packs

>zipper riding on your spine
Sounds very fun

so i can upsize this pack with the same pockets that i use on my 30l

if i wanted to get another pack

but 60l total is more than enough, imo

Up in Alaska, we get issued special cold weather uniforms, and the pants come with suspenders that we're supposed to wear instead of belts because belts can cut off some circulation and cause cold weather injuries

suspenders are comfy

Those suspenders have a plastic slider to adjust them

Here is the mystery ranch out elk hunting

Those plastic sliders are not comfy under plates

It scales up and down awesome

yikes

why dont they just issue elastic suspenders

like fucking normal people

They are elastic material

then why do they need a toggle

I don't know why they included it

Probably for some one size fits all bullshit

such a dumb design