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2019-12-17 06:19:38 UTC  

but the vests that they're worried AP pistol ammo can penetrate, can all be slotted by any rifle

2019-12-17 06:19:46 UTC  

its penny wise and pound foolish

2019-12-17 06:20:00 UTC  

But thats why hard plates on beat cops exist too 🤔

2019-12-17 06:20:08 UTC  

but then why ban the pistol ammo

2019-12-17 06:20:09 UTC  

or their focus on having officers have shit in their cars

2019-12-17 06:20:12 UTC  

cause they can

2019-12-17 06:20:13 UTC  

AP handgun rounds would probably easily be stopped by level 3 plates.

2019-12-17 06:20:18 UTC  

and they haven't bothered to update shit

2019-12-17 06:20:59 UTC  

the real answer is because nobody actually shoots anyone with a rifle in this country

2019-12-17 06:21:00 UTC  

The legislation against the pistol ammo happened long before big advancements in armor technology. Back in the day cops had soft armor only basically.

2019-12-17 06:21:55 UTC  

It only makes sense if you see it as an incremental infringement

2019-12-17 06:22:00 UTC  

Am I reading this right? 3810 can stop 6 of the first 5 rounds and then 3 rounds each of the last two or thats how many rounds it takes for penetration for that specific round?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558106673911169035/656380558557052945/3810_1080x.webp

2019-12-17 06:22:03 UTC  

If you examine it at face value it seems absurd

2019-12-17 06:22:35 UTC  

it's how many they can take

2019-12-17 06:22:37 UTC  

@|||ST yes

2019-12-17 06:22:40 UTC  

thats how it works

2019-12-17 06:22:44 UTC  

its or, not and

2019-12-17 06:22:46 UTC  

don't listen to anyone else

2019-12-17 06:22:49 UTC  

listen to me

2019-12-17 06:23:25 UTC  

it helps for the plate to build up resistance with the smaller rounds

2019-12-17 06:23:51 UTC  

Is that impacts in the same location?

2019-12-17 06:24:03 UTC  

@CTL all those rounds on the same plate or nah?

2019-12-17 06:24:06 UTC  

Pistols kill far more than any other weapon. Cops didn't used to have ready access to lightweight high level armor. AP handgun rounds could penetrate their soft panels. Banned. It's still an infringement, but the argument for officer safety is pretty strong.

2019-12-17 06:24:10 UTC  

go read the testing criteria

2019-12-17 06:24:48 UTC  

*ahem*

2019-12-17 06:24:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558106673911169035/656381295680552971/7.png

2019-12-17 06:27:33 UTC  

Tldr that for me

2019-12-17 06:28:39 UTC  

yes? @|||ST

2019-12-17 06:28:46 UTC  

tf kind of question is that

2019-12-17 06:28:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558106673911169035/656382282541563904/Screenshot_20191216-232830.png

2019-12-17 06:28:51 UTC  

😎

2019-12-17 06:28:53 UTC  

no i mean like

2019-12-17 06:28:56 UTC  

yes

2019-12-17 06:29:11 UTC  

Youre telling me that plate can take all 36 of those rounds?

2019-12-17 06:29:32 UTC  

the tl;dr is the NIJ test is a single round of 30-06, tested in a couple different ways on different plates

2019-12-17 06:29:44 UTC  

w2c

2019-12-17 06:29:59 UTC  

Hesco just tests their plates separately and tells you how many rounds of a given caliber it takes to compromise the plate

2019-12-17 06:31:30 UTC  

normally you take self-certified plate tests with a grain of salt, but the plate has already passed the NIJ test so you have nothing to lose by believing hesco's in-house ratings

2019-12-17 06:31:36 UTC  

no

2019-12-17 06:31:40 UTC  

it's "or"