Hmm

yea each fragment becomes a altar

these r the "demons" and aliens"

it may help, that the subject might (often does) do the sleep-depriv him self

Electroshoking is effective but not for too longer, electricity kill neurons and that's can be a trouble if kills the wrong one.

by the time they need extended sleep deprivation that behaviour should be programmed

also social-isolation comes quite naturally?

Electricity does not kill neurons, they work with electricity, neurochemistry is all electricity, but perhaps if the voltage is too high it can cause damage yes, but they know what they are doing.

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@EzkealSutekh you got a big difference when you talk bout natural electricity and inducted electricity.

If the things were like that if you get electrocuted you wont get shocked.

Thats not true, If you have a negative charge, it will seek a positive outlet to create equilibrium in the system. Just like lightning, it seeks the positive ground. You can electrocute yourself, but with less than 5 miliamps and not that many volts.

For therapy it would not be effective to conduct a current for longer periods of time, you shock people so that the brain can reset its neural pathways.

So is dont that efrective.

It is actually a treatment option in psychiatric modern medicine, however the side effect is a bit of amnesia, but i could imagine larger complications if used for MK ultra.

tbqh, methinks the shocks given for mental illnesses do fuckall

There are studies that show that it is a good treatment option.

Electric shock therapy was abandoned because it was destroying people

@Cthuluwu exactly

Ernest Hemmingway was shocked until he wasn't able to write any longer

they used to think drilling holes in the skull to let the demons out was good aswell

it may be some false correlation, like 1000 things where psychs are messing around

It is not abandoned at all, there is a difference between electro convulsive treatment before modern medicine, and that is NOT because it wasn't effective, it was because it was not ordained the correct way, it caused the patients to fracture bones be cause of the convulsions, but modern medicine does not induce that high of a current and gives muscle relaxants.

Is dont worth too study something that in a any longer doesnt worth and in something that is delicate like mind controll.

@Armo Can you change my name to Andrew Yang?

these people are psychopaths preying on a bunch of butterfly chasing schitzophrenics

They dont need to study an ancient method of treatment, yeah, they already know how to give electro chock therapy.

I've lost the link, but i think there was some nice stats showing that best treatment for psychosis was to treat it as a kind of a trip and create a best "safe space" possible. And not trying to cure anything by "force"/actively

exactly xxx

But therapy is to cure any illness. we are talking about if it's worth to use it in mind controll.

I dont see why it couldn't be used for that as one of the side effects are amnesia.

If the goal is to make a zombie - then maybe it a nice tool

electroshock them till they can't think then smash them with ELF

@xxxjxxx we dont want a zombie we want a puppet a puppet is able to control it a zombie is like a braindead.

I don't trust introducing new external electrical impulses into a fundamentally electrically driven thing like the body

scoplamine makes a 2in1

some people might be more likely targets of mind control than others, i think.

people who don't fit in and stuff like that.

@Cthuluwu People do actually benefit from the treatment even this day and age, its much safer than the inhumane practice it was before.

I'm skeptical of it but maybe