Message from @nagarjuna

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2018-09-12 14:02:31 UTC  

anyone here like baudrillard

2018-09-12 15:06:02 UTC  

clouscard ftw

2018-09-12 15:11:07 UTC  

@nagarjuna baudrillard is based

2018-09-12 15:11:37 UTC  

damn dude glad to hear it. clouscard seems legit you just pointed him out to me

2018-09-12 15:12:16 UTC  

I'd recommend reading *The Capitalism of Seduction* if you haven't, it's his one work of note

2018-09-12 15:12:39 UTC  

A critique of the neoliberal system born from Mai 68

2018-09-12 15:15:44 UTC  

that's pretty chill dude, as you know JB wrote about seduction

2018-09-12 15:15:50 UTC  

sounds like there is an OG here

2018-09-12 15:18:16 UTC  

this is a nice little intro

2018-09-12 15:19:07 UTC  

oh cool. can you find TCoS online? I had trouble

2018-09-12 15:21:20 UTC  

Idk

2018-09-12 15:21:29 UTC  

It's in 2 volumes

2018-09-12 15:21:33 UTC  

word. oh wow

2018-09-12 15:22:07 UTC  

ok i found it

2018-09-12 15:22:08 UTC  

but

2018-09-12 15:22:14 UTC  

do you understand french

2018-09-12 15:22:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338768230866747405/489455794266570782/le_capitalisme_de_la_seduction_-_michel_clouscard.pdf

2018-09-12 15:23:50 UTC  

hahaha

2018-09-12 15:23:52 UTC  

no sir

2018-09-12 15:23:57 UTC  

I should I guess, only german

2018-09-12 15:25:31 UTC  

rip

2018-09-12 15:25:37 UTC  

clouscard is really not known at all

2018-09-12 15:25:55 UTC  

There might be an english translation, but a free pdf is pushing it

2018-09-12 15:26:15 UTC  

word ill check the libraries

2018-09-12 15:26:25 UTC  

cheers

2018-09-12 15:28:36 UTC  

five sure. also check out comments on society of the spectacle if you haven't yet I love that one

2018-09-12 15:29:22 UTC  

Situationism feels a lot like intellectual jerk-off to me

2018-09-12 15:32:14 UTC  

And it also contributed to the conversion of pre-1970s capitalism into global liberalism

2018-09-12 15:32:59 UTC  

thats definitely not wrong, but I think the comments are way better than the original book

2018-09-12 15:33:16 UTC  

and from the original, I love the phrase on page one: "the liar has lied to himself" very strong image to me

2018-09-12 15:33:48 UTC  

I like to compare it to descartes evil demon, and i think-> instead of thinking the demon is tricking you, what if you are the demon, tricking yourself?

2018-09-12 15:33:54 UTC  

I love this idea so much

2018-09-12 16:09:03 UTC  

Well, actually, I found an article Clouscard wrote on Baudrillard

2018-09-12 16:09:07 UTC  

French though

2018-09-12 16:10:05 UTC  

Je mappele gay

2018-09-12 16:10:12 UTC  

Wait no

2018-09-12 16:12:17 UTC  

@nagarjuna Even if that article is mostly yet another critique of Baudrillard

2018-09-12 16:14:00 UTC  

@DOLBATIC that looks awesome I'm just an insufferable JB sycophant because I haven't read more haha. His writing is super contradictory so the parts I like are contradicted by other parts haha. My aim isn't to rep him so much as bring him up because that's where my thoughts are, wanna move forward

2018-09-12 16:14:40 UTC  

I see JB kind of in the skeptical tradition, which I really enjoy. The problem of how to apply skepticism politically is the huge problem but one I want to confront