just things i remember

if it's so secret then how did it get out?

i havent looked into these things recently like in the past 1 year

the very fact that the CIA let someone publish a book about the program means that they must not be a threat

its just not well known in the public only people who research things patiently discovers things like this

the very fact that you can research these things means that they aren't secret

"secret" means you don't know about it

wouldn't the CIA want to have all information related to their secret program wiped?

they did

then how can you research it?

when it was first revealed in court through an freedom of information act

i think thats how its called they destroyed lots of papers relating to the mk ultra program

thats clue number 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BINQ4jiQFsI

i think this is the video

the CIA's own documents say the project ended in 1964

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP91-00901R000500150005-5.pdf

yeah goy believe the government oy vey

so it's okay to believe the government's own documents that were released under the FOIA

unless you disagree with them

"their own documents admit it!"
"no don't believe their documents because they're all lies"

you can't have it both ways

do you also believe the official narrative of 9/11 and j f kennedy assasination?

that's a red herring

do you believe the CIA documents yes or no?

either you believe the CIA's released documents or you don't
you can't say that you only trust some of them

they're all released for the same reason by the same people under the same act

Not by the same people no

that's a strawman

@Adolf Hitler but yeah as I was saying
you can either trust the documents or not trust them

and you're trying to do both here

No you can also trust some and not trust others

"clandestinely established the nuclear weapons program in the mid to late 1950s with French assistance," proof?

Im not saying cuba definitely has nukes, Im saying cuba might secretly still have it

the ussr lies alot

also I'm looking through the CIA's reading room documents here

these funds are all under $50K

now I've never run a mind control program

(except for the toledo incident)

but I'd say that you need a bit more money than that to extend technology to the very edge of psychological research