Message from @Borzo

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2018-10-23 12:32:54 UTC  

You are both British and American slave xaxaxaxa

2018-10-23 12:33:39 UTC  

Imran khan can't run

2018-10-23 12:35:10 UTC  

And so it continues

2018-10-23 12:35:26 UTC  

~~like serbo Croatian hate outside of titoslavija~~

2018-10-23 13:32:34 UTC  

@Borzo in Москва

2018-10-23 13:32:59 UTC  

I'm from Минск

2018-10-23 13:34:09 UTC  

@Comrade Victor when we (Russian communists) critize Yugoslav experience we are not against Revolution in Yugoslavia and socialist construction

2018-10-23 13:34:40 UTC  

Abolish nationality

2018-10-23 13:34:49 UTC  

The working men have no country

2018-10-23 13:35:15 UTC  

Marx said it best

2018-10-23 13:35:20 UTC  

"The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only: 1. In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality. 2. In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole."

2018-10-23 13:35:47 UTC  

@Deleted User don't you know that Soviet Russia called for independency of all colonies including here Pakistan

2018-10-23 13:36:08 UTC  

"The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality.

The working men have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got. Since the proletariat must first of all acquire political supremacy, must rise to be the leading class of the nation, must constitute itself the nation, it is so far, itself national, though not in the bourgeois sense of the word.

National differences and antagonism between peoples are daily more and more vanishing, owing to the development of the bourgeoisie, to freedom of commerce, to the world market, to uniformity in the mode of production and in the conditions of life corresponding thereto.

The supremacy of the proletariat will cause them to vanish still faster. United action, of the leading civilised countries at least, is one of the first conditions for the emancipation of the proletariat.

In proportion as the exploitation of one individual by another will also be put an end to, the exploitation of one nation by another will also be put an end to. In proportion as the antagonism between classes within the nation vanishes, the hostility of one nation to another will come to an end." Marx

2018-10-23 13:36:09 UTC  

?

2018-10-23 13:37:16 UTC  
2018-10-23 13:37:17 UTC  

idc

2018-10-23 13:37:26 UTC  

the british raj was great

2018-10-23 13:37:55 UTC  

"Since the proletariat must first of all acquire political supremacy, must rise to be the leading class of the nation, must constitute itself the nation, it is so far, itself national, though not in the bourgeois sense of the word" - objectively different nations exist but not in bourgeois view as something that about bourgeoisie claim as representer of all nation

2018-10-23 13:38:33 UTC  

The working men have no country

2018-10-23 13:39:17 UTC  

All capitalist countries share the same feature: class antagonisms

2018-10-23 13:39:29 UTC  

History itself is based on class antagonisms

2018-10-23 13:39:31 UTC  

You then oppose to majority of Pakistani people @Deleted User as servant of colonialism, in fact slavery of your nation in hands of western imperialism

2018-10-23 13:40:17 UTC  

Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.

2018-10-23 13:41:15 UTC  

For example, feudal property was abolished in favour of bourgouis property

2018-10-23 13:41:31 UTC  

But that would be in turn to property relations

2018-10-23 13:41:47 UTC  

@Borzo yes but proletarians talk on different languages. That would be overcome in process of communist constructions. You talk now in way of bourgeois cosmopolitism which reject objective national difference.

2018-10-23 13:42:02 UTC  

Freeman -> patrician -> lord -> guild master -> bourgousie

2018-10-23 13:42:18 UTC  
2018-10-23 13:42:20 UTC  

Which is why we must make a worldwide language

2018-10-23 13:42:30 UTC  

western imperialism was great

2018-10-23 13:42:30 UTC  

English would be the smart choice

2018-10-23 13:42:39 UTC  

you don't know about me or my people

2018-10-23 13:42:43 UTC  

In the ussr, Russian was the smart choice

2018-10-23 13:42:43 UTC  

Communist do not reject nationality they reject bourgeois as representers of all nation (bourgeois ideology)

2018-10-23 13:42:43 UTC  

now stfu

2018-10-23 13:43:10 UTC  

@Deleted User have you heard of a classcuck?

2018-10-23 13:43:32 UTC  

@Deleted User you don't know about your people too as probably more live in European reality rather then your country.

2018-10-23 13:43:34 UTC  

Classcuck
A person living under a socio-economic system and who doesn't realize their subservient position in that system and even will actively defend it, e.g. a slave in the slave societies, a peasant in feudal societies, a wage-slave in a capitalist society. (synonymous to class traitor)

2018-10-23 13:44:27 UTC  

In proportion as the exploitation of one individual by another will also be put an end to, the exploitation of one nation by another will also be put an end to.

2018-10-23 13:44:37 UTC  

@Borzo but in USSR didn't reject national languages of republics

2018-10-23 13:44:55 UTC  

Yet Russian was taught in every school