Message from @Musketar (Alex)

Discord ID: 513697019945025546


2018-11-18 12:44:27 UTC  

@Mr. X general fear about Russia, barbarians in grey uniforms with reactionary tsar Nicolas the I

2018-11-18 12:44:47 UTC  

Major of country in serfdom

2018-11-18 12:44:58 UTC  

the west do not fear russians, nor do I

2018-11-18 12:45:28 UTC  

what westerners mostly feared was communism and nukes

2018-11-18 12:45:40 UTC  

now we're only afraid of nukes that wont even get used

2018-11-18 12:45:54 UTC  

Communist revolution helped Russia made great jump from backward peasant country to industrial society

2018-11-18 12:46:18 UTC  

it was in vain though

2018-11-18 12:46:28 UTC  

with a tsar you could've done far better

2018-11-18 12:46:41 UTC  

No man

2018-11-18 12:46:41 UTC  

and I dont even like monarchies

2018-11-18 12:46:49 UTC  

the brits dont agree

2018-11-18 12:47:07 UTC  

and I especially dont like russian monarchies

2018-11-18 12:47:22 UTC  

Tsarism was totally bankrupt system at the beginning of XX century in Russia

2018-11-18 12:47:46 UTC  

Thanks to ww1

2018-11-18 12:47:56 UTC  

WW1 saved them

2018-11-18 12:48:01 UTC  

nonsense

2018-11-18 12:48:02 UTC  

on 3 years

2018-11-18 12:48:08 UTC  

ww1 fucked them over

2018-11-18 12:48:12 UTC  

that was the point of ww1

2018-11-18 12:48:19 UTC  

In 1914 was rising of strike movement

2018-11-18 12:48:33 UTC  

even in Petersburg were barricades

2018-11-18 12:48:47 UTC  

Which wasn't in 1905

2018-11-18 12:49:32 UTC  

yes yes I know about that

2018-11-18 12:49:38 UTC  

but in ww1 thats what made it worse

2018-11-18 12:49:41 UTC  

Only war helped to reduce revolutionary situation

2018-11-18 12:49:43 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-18 12:51:34 UTC  

No it bankrupted them much more

2018-11-18 12:52:09 UTC  

Yes but they escaped possible revolution in 1914

2018-11-18 12:52:27 UTC  

I do not reject what you talking about

2018-11-18 12:53:02 UTC  

How did they escape possible revolution in 1914?

2018-11-18 12:53:17 UTC  

>In 1914 was rising of strike movement
even in Petersburg were barricades
Which wasn't in 1905

2018-11-18 12:53:18 UTC  

Either way it was in vain

2018-11-18 12:53:39 UTC  

so? what proof is there that the war prevented it?

2018-11-18 12:53:44 UTC  

There was a revolution during the war

2018-11-18 12:54:44 UTC  

Not prevented but postpone

2018-11-18 12:55:29 UTC  

How so?

2018-11-18 12:56:17 UTC  

In 1914 was possibility for revolutionary situation but war directed energy of people in patriotic hysteria which reduced in 1915-1916

2018-11-18 12:57:40 UTC  

People instead struggle with czarist government dyed in fields of battle with same working people

2018-11-18 12:58:18 UTC  

I'll research that, but thanks

2018-11-18 12:58:24 UTC  

Either way it was still in vain

2018-11-18 12:58:38 UTC  

capitalism has industrialized people far better before