course there were

you can be centrist and have revolution

That's why provisional governent and all suppoted socrevs and mensheviks failed

What do you think happened in france and america?

they overthrew kings but didnt turn to shit like communism over time

France was very radical

in a good sense

they had napoleon

who made a great empire

@Mr. X because there was no objective causes for communist revolution

sure the russians killed him which is another thing I dont like but whatever

it were bourgeois revolutions

there were none in those days either

other than he was authoritarian and killed people

the communists just copied and pasted him with marxism

but even in French revolution existed babouvists who were first communists

you could just be capitalist without being authoritarian

and be far more successful

there's no denying that the west did far better

Russia I believe has potential though, if it wasnt so corrupt and stook to a better and updated constitution in politics

which wont happen any time soon

or perhaps at all

ukraine on the other hand is redeemable imo

if they became eu and/or nato members

then I'll except them as europeans and westerners

and then they'll be the only big amount of orthodox slavs I accept.

It would be corrupt as this is part of periphery capitalism, so to struggle against corruption we need fight against causes which is capitalist system

no its not part of that.

Many countries arent corrupt and are capitalist

And all tendencies in Russia are about new revolutionary situation

@Mr. X man even US very corrupt

I highly doubt it would be productive

the US isnt that corrupt believe it or not

not compared to russia or brazil

but there more legalised corrutpion

or Japan

no they dont legalize corruption

There are enough corruptions in West

america's whole thing is making sure the government doesnt have too much power

not much

but well there is more social control