Message from @Kin/Poni

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2019-07-27 19:51:24 UTC  

yeah

2019-07-27 19:51:34 UTC  

and what's thsi wealth your speakign soo much abotut, taht you care soo much about

2019-07-27 19:52:00 UTC  

you're talking abour money isn't it?

2019-07-27 19:52:03 UTC  

to generate profit

2019-07-27 19:52:08 UTC  

more and more and more profit

2019-07-27 19:52:21 UTC  

coudl you tell me WHO owns the profit?

2019-07-27 19:52:23 UTC  

yeah generally money, or at least things you can represent in money

2019-07-27 19:52:28 UTC  

allright

2019-07-27 19:52:36 UTC  

tell me WHO owns the "wealth"

2019-07-27 19:52:38 UTC  

thats being made

2019-07-27 19:52:49 UTC  

who gets the "wealth" in capitalism

2019-07-27 19:52:55 UTC  

certainlly not the state right?

2019-07-27 19:53:03 UTC  

and cerainlly not teh workers right?

2019-07-27 19:53:20 UTC  

i wodner who could that be

2019-07-27 19:53:41 UTC  

someone that benefits form teh system of worker's exploitation in order to infinietlly accumulate profit for their own use.........

2019-07-27 19:53:46 UTC  

but what are they called?!

2019-07-27 19:53:56 UTC  

i realise that there is a big problem that capitalism generates wealth mostly for the richeset but my point is, if you dont have that then you dont have any wealth to speak of in the first place

2019-07-27 19:54:09 UTC  

"capitalism generates wealth mostly for the richeset"

2019-07-27 19:54:14 UTC  

you need some wealth in the first place to then redistribute it equally

2019-07-27 19:54:17 UTC  

who is it supposed to generate profit for?

2019-07-27 19:54:25 UTC  

anwser my question ^

2019-07-27 19:54:41 UTC  

for all the people?

2019-07-27 19:55:05 UTC  

how do oyu generate profit for all the people if you have private ownership of buisnesses and a free market?

2019-07-27 19:55:14 UTC  

the people who reap the profits are the owners of buisnesses not the workers

2019-07-27 19:55:32 UTC  

anwser

2019-07-27 19:56:18 UTC  

how do you generate profit for "all the people" if you have private ownership of buisnesses and a free market?

2019-07-27 19:56:39 UTC  

the owners are the ones that earn money on the free market

2019-07-27 19:56:49 UTC  

teh worker's are subject to wage slavery

2019-07-27 19:57:04 UTC  

through redistribution

2019-07-27 19:57:16 UTC  

very high progressive taxes

2019-07-27 19:57:48 UTC  

Who do you tax? @rogalik

2019-07-27 19:57:51 UTC  

the owners?

2019-07-27 19:58:24 UTC  

to what point do you tax them to?

2019-07-27 19:58:27 UTC  

everyone would be taxed the point of the progressive tax system is that the richest pay larger share of their wealth

2019-07-27 19:58:57 UTC  

"the richest pay larger share of their wealth"

2019-07-27 19:59:03 UTC  

dosen't that still make them the richest?

2019-07-27 19:59:23 UTC  

why should the owner of a buisness make soo much money and the worker get bearlly any compensation for his labour?

2019-07-27 19:59:28 UTC  

yeah i have no problem with the existence of the rich people per se

2019-07-27 19:59:41 UTC  

if they contribute to the society that carried them to their place

2019-07-27 19:59:43 UTC  

DO you know why rich people i ncapitalism exsist?

2019-07-27 19:59:54 UTC  

What is contributing toi the society that you're speaking of?