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2018-04-11 23:17:25 UTC  

And which countries are those?

2018-04-11 23:17:41 UTC  

Communist china? Vietnam?

2018-04-11 23:18:16 UTC  

China today is so, minus the intensity of running your whole economy for war

2018-04-11 23:18:25 UTC  

And China isn’t socilais

2018-04-11 23:18:33 UTC  

socialist

2018-04-11 23:18:38 UTC  

Even the leader of china admit's that china is no longer socialist.

2018-04-11 23:18:49 UTC  

we agree on that

2018-04-11 23:19:17 UTC  

If it isn’t socialist, it’s capitalist and vice versa

2018-04-11 23:19:29 UTC  

No, no not really.

2018-04-11 23:19:37 UTC  

aka third positionism is a wet dream

2018-04-11 23:19:42 UTC  

If China’s not socialist anymore, then why not restore the Kuomintang? I’d fuckin’ nut if that happened <:bour:313709044957315082>

2018-04-11 23:19:55 UTC  
2018-04-11 23:20:18 UTC  

I wish too.

2018-04-11 23:20:25 UTC  

a wet dream for people who want to act like private property is anything but Capitalisn

2018-04-11 23:20:28 UTC  

*m

2018-04-11 23:20:54 UTC  

Already told you how that wasn't the case for the seventh time now....

2018-04-11 23:20:54 UTC  

Eh, in my eyes Taiwan is still the legitimate government of China.

2018-04-11 23:21:03 UTC  

That’s just me.

2018-04-11 23:21:05 UTC  

you haven’t said shut

2018-04-11 23:21:08 UTC  

*shit

2018-04-11 23:21:35 UTC  

@yung Calm down there sassy pants, you're getting all riled up.

2018-04-11 23:21:37 UTC  

You said: privatization isn’t Capitalism because nAzi worldview sees state as priority

2018-04-11 23:22:05 UTC  

@yung You have not proven at all how it is indeed inherently capitalist.

2018-04-11 23:22:07 UTC  

which is A) not an argument, and B) completely irrelevant to the truth.

2018-04-11 23:22:26 UTC  

I thought the Nazis were against private property and all for all real-estate to be controlled by the state.

2018-04-11 23:22:45 UTC  

@K▲ISER You thought wrong.

2018-04-11 23:22:57 UTC  

How so?

2018-04-11 23:23:12 UTC  

@K▲ISER Check this whole conversation.

2018-04-11 23:23:17 UTC  

kk

2018-04-11 23:24:47 UTC  

Hm, I’ve gotcha now.

2018-04-11 23:24:59 UTC  

Thanks for the info my dood <:bour:313709044957315082>

2018-04-11 23:34:44 UTC  

If you privatize most industry, you are making most industry work for profit. This is fact and irrefutable, as private ownership is production named at selling, not giving away for free. It doesn’t matter if that profit is made by selling arms to the military complex or by simple sale of civilian commodities. If you are selling something, you are making profit from it, or at least trying to. Even if say certain sectors of production are made to benefit the state, it either means that the state is using private profit to finance itself, or that production is public, which there was in some aspect in Nazi Germany, as it was needed for the war effort.
Still capital returns increased, aka Capitalism rose, and most industry was privatized, meaning that most industry was run for profit of Business Owners. The whole narrative that the state came first maybe true in so far as private profit was used by the state, but it falls apart at the fact that Germany privatized more than nationalised.

2018-04-11 23:36:11 UTC  

Aka A State controlled market economy

2018-04-11 23:36:16 UTC  

Question.

2018-04-11 23:36:36 UTC  

which is still a market economy=Capitalist mode of production

2018-04-11 23:36:51 UTC  

What’s wrong with privatization for profit nowadays?

2018-04-11 23:36:51 UTC  
2018-04-11 23:37:49 UTC  

We’re kind of making a transition into automating our factory work as of right now, meaning less need for workers for manual labor.

2018-04-11 23:38:48 UTC  

exactly, and that would mean that privatizing would lead to usage of machinery for profit as opposed to common need

2018-04-11 23:40:11 UTC  

You still have to buy stuff, but there will be no need for your work anymore, making you not have money. Which is why automation is the ultimate contradiction of Capitalism

2018-04-11 23:42:36 UTC  

Wouldn’t automating your labor mean you wouldn’t have to pay for your workers, therefore adding to your overall profits, though?