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And which countries are those?
Communist china? Vietnam?
China today is so, minus the intensity of running your whole economy for war
And China isn’t socilais
socialist
Even the leader of china admit's that china is no longer socialist.
we agree on that
If it isn’t socialist, it’s capitalist and vice versa
No, no not really.
aka third positionism is a wet dream
If China’s not socialist anymore, then why not restore the Kuomintang? I’d fuckin’ nut if that happened <:bour:313709044957315082>
@K▲ISER I wish.
I wish too.
a wet dream for people who want to act like private property is anything but Capitalisn
*m
Already told you how that wasn't the case for the seventh time now....
Eh, in my eyes Taiwan is still the legitimate government of China.
That’s just me.
you haven’t said shut
*shit
You said: privatization isn’t Capitalism because nAzi worldview sees state as priority
@yung You have not proven at all how it is indeed inherently capitalist.
which is A) not an argument, and B) completely irrelevant to the truth.
I thought the Nazis were against private property and all for all real-estate to be controlled by the state.
@K▲ISER You thought wrong.
How so?
@K▲ISER Check this whole conversation.
kk
Hm, I’ve gotcha now.
Thanks for the info my dood <:bour:313709044957315082>
If you privatize most industry, you are making most industry work for profit. This is fact and irrefutable, as private ownership is production named at selling, not giving away for free. It doesn’t matter if that profit is made by selling arms to the military complex or by simple sale of civilian commodities. If you are selling something, you are making profit from it, or at least trying to. Even if say certain sectors of production are made to benefit the state, it either means that the state is using private profit to finance itself, or that production is public, which there was in some aspect in Nazi Germany, as it was needed for the war effort.
Still capital returns increased, aka Capitalism rose, and most industry was privatized, meaning that most industry was run for profit of Business Owners. The whole narrative that the state came first maybe true in so far as private profit was used by the state, but it falls apart at the fact that Germany privatized more than nationalised.
Aka A State controlled market economy
Question.
which is still a market economy=Capitalist mode of production
What’s wrong with privatization for profit nowadays?
http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf This is helpful
We’re kind of making a transition into automating our factory work as of right now, meaning less need for workers for manual labor.
exactly, and that would mean that privatizing would lead to usage of machinery for profit as opposed to common need
You still have to buy stuff, but there will be no need for your work anymore, making you not have money. Which is why automation is the ultimate contradiction of Capitalism
Wouldn’t automating your labor mean you wouldn’t have to pay for your workers, therefore adding to your overall profits, though?