Message from @yung
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Wouldn’t some new industries with human needs also pop up on the way as well?
Some I guess
It’s not like human labor would just flat-out disappear, after all.
Yes but most of it
with full automation
But It would lead to a shit ton of instability and unrest that would most likely lead to an easy transition to communism aided by automated labor that can be the source of the gift economy
@yung (thanks for taking over 10 minutes to respond) No fucking shit business would work for profit, but that need would come second to the nation, but it dosen't make it capitalist either, I have told you this all before that we are fine with people making a profit, but that need needs to come second to the state.
Just because you say it is for the nation doesn’t make it not capitalist. The problem is not where the profit lands, it’s that profit is made.
this is what you refuse to acknowledge
That is what makes it Capitalist
@yung In capitalism, profit comes first and foremost, in national socialism, it dosen't, is that simple enough for you?
How doesn’t it?
show me how it doesn’t
Show me one concrete economic practice that shows that private property in Germany put profit as a lesser priority when the only function of private property is making profit
lmao
@yung In national socialism, businesses focus on benefitting the state, before profit.
Ok show me
how
Okay, give me a moment.
this is done, ignoring that for war every nation works like that
Just know that Nazi Germany had a capitalist mode of production
nite
@yung Leaving just like that in the middle of an argument? Nice.
I’m sorry dude but it’s really late
I normally wouldn’t do this but I have to
And the debate is over. Anyone who believes that privatization is anti capitalist has lost the plot, sorry.
Yeeeeeeeeah, privatization is very Capitalist, that I can wholeheartedly agree with.
@K▲ISER Nope.
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I honestly don’t see why it isn’t.
Owning land yourself instead of having it owned by the state is pretty Capitalist.
@K▲ISER How so?
this is what you quote as proof
But it could also be Syndicalist or very libertarian Socialist, depends on your amount of faith in the state.
read the conclusion and tell me what it says. Tell me if it doesn’t say that economically Nazi Germany was a market economy directed by a state
However, in terms of the current mainstream economic views, private property and privatization is seen as a very Capitalist thing.
it just is
It’s not exclusive to Capitalism, but it’s certainly synonymous with it, is what I’m saying.
@yung Free markets are not inherently communist.