Message from @yung

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2018-04-11 23:47:47 UTC  

Wouldn’t some new industries with human needs also pop up on the way as well?

2018-04-11 23:48:03 UTC  

Some I guess

2018-04-11 23:48:30 UTC  

It’s not like human labor would just flat-out disappear, after all.

2018-04-11 23:48:43 UTC  

Yes but most of it

2018-04-11 23:48:50 UTC  

with full automation

2018-04-11 23:49:19 UTC  

But It would lead to a shit ton of instability and unrest that would most likely lead to an easy transition to communism aided by automated labor that can be the source of the gift economy

2018-04-11 23:52:23 UTC  

@yung (thanks for taking over 10 minutes to respond) No fucking shit business would work for profit, but that need would come second to the nation, but it dosen't make it capitalist either, I have told you this all before that we are fine with people making a profit, but that need needs to come second to the state.

2018-04-11 23:53:29 UTC  

Just because you say it is for the nation doesn’t make it not capitalist. The problem is not where the profit lands, it’s that profit is made.

2018-04-11 23:53:37 UTC  

this is what you refuse to acknowledge

2018-04-11 23:54:00 UTC  

That is what makes it Capitalist

2018-04-11 23:54:12 UTC  

@yung In capitalism, profit comes first and foremost, in national socialism, it dosen't, is that simple enough for you?

2018-04-11 23:54:21 UTC  

How doesn’t it?

2018-04-11 23:54:29 UTC  

show me how it doesn’t

2018-04-11 23:55:56 UTC  

Show me one concrete economic practice that shows that private property in Germany put profit as a lesser priority when the only function of private property is making profit

2018-04-11 23:55:58 UTC  

lmao

2018-04-11 23:56:21 UTC  

@yung In national socialism, businesses focus on benefitting the state, before profit.

2018-04-11 23:56:29 UTC  

Ok show me

2018-04-11 23:56:31 UTC  

how

2018-04-11 23:57:08 UTC  

Okay, give me a moment.

2018-04-11 23:57:12 UTC  

this is done, ignoring that for war every nation works like that

2018-04-11 23:57:43 UTC  

Send me via DM i’m going to sleep as it’s 2 AM

2018-04-11 23:58:07 UTC  

Just know that Nazi Germany had a capitalist mode of production

2018-04-11 23:58:10 UTC  

nite

2018-04-12 00:00:13 UTC  

@yung Leaving just like that in the middle of an argument? Nice.

2018-04-12 00:01:48 UTC  

I’m sorry dude but it’s really late

2018-04-12 00:02:13 UTC  

I normally wouldn’t do this but I have to

2018-04-12 00:02:48 UTC  

And the debate is over. Anyone who believes that privatization is anti capitalist has lost the plot, sorry.

2018-04-12 00:03:29 UTC  

Yeeeeeeeeah, privatization is very Capitalist, that I can wholeheartedly agree with.

2018-04-12 00:03:36 UTC  
2018-04-12 00:04:00 UTC  

ech

2018-04-12 00:04:24 UTC  

I honestly don’t see why it isn’t.

2018-04-12 00:04:54 UTC  

Owning land yourself instead of having it owned by the state is pretty Capitalist.

2018-04-12 00:05:55 UTC  
2018-04-12 00:07:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/433780094117478410/image.png

2018-04-12 00:07:22 UTC  

this is what you quote as proof

2018-04-12 00:07:33 UTC  

But it could also be Syndicalist or very libertarian Socialist, depends on your amount of faith in the state.

2018-04-12 00:08:19 UTC  

read the conclusion and tell me what it says. Tell me if it doesn’t say that economically Nazi Germany was a market economy directed by a state

2018-04-12 00:11:05 UTC  

However, in terms of the current mainstream economic views, private property and privatization is seen as a very Capitalist thing.

2018-04-12 00:11:26 UTC  

it just is

2018-04-12 00:12:26 UTC  

It’s not exclusive to Capitalism, but it’s certainly synonymous with it, is what I’m saying.

2018-04-12 00:13:58 UTC  

@yung Free markets are not inherently communist.