Message from @yung

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2018-04-18 01:30:36 UTC  

It only leads to destruction of those trying to spread it.

2018-04-18 01:31:21 UTC  

so you suggest throwing the towel in like that? Just because there is imperialism?

2018-04-18 01:31:38 UTC  

If you attempt to spread socialism internationally and militaristically, it only ends up destroying socialism, trotsky and his schemes prove that.

2018-04-18 01:31:52 UTC  

Trotsky didn’t do shit tho

2018-04-18 01:32:26 UTC  

and the destruction of the Soviet Union as you know cane much later, when it was no longer Socialist at all.

2018-04-18 01:32:34 UTC  

Imperialism is long dead, it is but the corporations that run rampant now.

2018-04-18 01:32:48 UTC  

well yes it’s economic imperialism

2018-04-18 01:32:52 UTC  

same difference

2018-04-18 01:33:25 UTC  

Imperialism relies on a state being the direct force behind it, the direct force is only the corporations.

2018-04-18 01:33:58 UTC  

*Unless you count china, which just steals oil from african countries

2018-04-18 01:34:23 UTC  

i’m not sure I’ve read any definition of imperialism that requires the state to be the decider

2018-04-18 01:34:46 UTC  

@yung It relies on the country.

2018-04-18 01:35:07 UTC  

This isn't from a bunch of countries.

2018-04-18 01:35:21 UTC  

Yes it’s from a few countries

2018-04-18 01:35:38 UTC  

like two or three as far as I know

2018-04-18 01:36:08 UTC  

The countries are not the ones behind it though, it is the corporations that are privately run.

2018-04-18 01:36:52 UTC  

Ironically, china is the only outlier in this, which claims to be anti imperialist.

2018-04-18 01:36:53 UTC  

Yes but corporations font go into countries, they get governments, militaries to invade these countries if invasion is even needed

2018-04-18 01:37:21 UTC  

No they don't.

2018-04-18 01:37:31 UTC  

how don’t they?

2018-04-18 01:37:32 UTC  

Show me an example of them doing this.

2018-04-18 01:37:50 UTC  

Stop trying to act like me pal.

2018-04-18 01:37:52 UTC  

The whole history of US imperialism in South America

2018-04-18 01:38:05 UTC  

Wow, how descriptive.

2018-04-18 01:39:03 UTC  

I’m sorry corporations don’t go out and say this my dude. It would be very difficult for me to provide you with that especially for recent examples

2018-04-18 01:39:04 UTC  

@yung And did I forget to tell you that this happened during the age of imperialism? When such things were commom in empires?

2018-04-18 01:39:06 UTC  

But look up

2018-04-18 01:39:34 UTC  

It was in the 20th century

2018-04-18 01:39:41 UTC  

Example?

2018-04-18 01:39:42 UTC  

I’m not talking about colonialism

2018-04-18 01:40:03 UTC  

What? Amerikkka was never a colonial empire.

2018-04-18 01:40:22 UTC  

I was under the impression you thought that, sorry

2018-04-18 01:40:47 UTC  

United Fruit Company in middle America, be it Guatemala or Cuba. The company you now know as Chiquita

2018-04-18 01:41:38 UTC  

this is a pretty well known example you should find it I’m guessing

2018-04-18 01:41:43 UTC  

Oh so you are talking about cuba and how the US distanced itself from it when it became a dictatorship before castro overthrew it?

2018-04-18 01:41:49 UTC  

Wow what a great example.

2018-04-18 01:42:15 UTC  

The US distances itself from Batista? They helped install him bruh

2018-04-18 01:42:46 UTC  

wtf

2018-04-18 01:44:02 UTC  

I was trying to have a nice conversation but you’re getting mad, talking shit you obviously don’t know anything about bro. Batista was supported by the US.

2018-04-18 01:45:41 UTC  

@yung What? The US dropped support for him because he was becoming a criminal dictator, and was ruining cuba, JFK even called him so.