Message from @DA GOMMIE JOO
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so what the fuck am I supposed to show you
is there anything I can show you that will change your mind?
anything whatsoever?
@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 All that the book discusses is the actual theory of the self proclaimed "workers self management" it dosen't actually prove if yugoslavia implemented it or not, it just discusses the effects the economic policy had on yugoslavia.
if it doesn't talk about whether they implemented it then how could they have proven that it's feasible
I love out of context quotes.
that's pointing out flaws in the system
every single economic system has flaws
>Representative democracy
You fuckin twat.
still a form of self-management and social ownership
giving the workers a say in ownership
that is what self-management is all about
@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 >Our description of enterprise self-management is more closely akin to models of representative democracy than the more participative notions implicit in a much of the cooperative literature
An assured thing.
>giving the workers a say in how the company is run doesn't count as social ownership
suuuuure
I fail to see what this proves
yugoslavia wasn't a fully competitive capitalist economy
>Self management
>Is actually capitalist
Holy shit marx must be spinning in his grave right now.
would you say mutualism is capitalist
@Deleted User cooperatives still produce commodities
marx would accept this as capitalism
you'd know that if you'd actually read marx
@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 Like it ever would be implemented.
it could be
through violence
@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 That's interesting, this book actually talks about cooperatives a lot in the yugoslav market.
@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 Keyword could, physically so, realistically? Not really.
not likely for mutualism no
but for makhnovism on the other hand
makhno was a bandit
bandits are cool
also a mutualist revolution would never occur because nobody cares about mutualism
rex have you read any marx
@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 >I like outlaws who murder, rob, and loot
@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 I ain't a commie you dumbass.
well makhno did murder kulaks and tankies
makhno was a kulak
shut up trot
@Erika.ϟϟ🇮🇪 That's some edge.