Message from @Deleted User

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2018-05-27 17:24:54 UTC  

@Deleted User Look at the other communist leaders, such as stalin, mao, ho chi minh, and castro, they would claim that they were anti communist, but wanted their own versions of socialism, could the same be said of strasser?

2018-05-27 17:25:02 UTC  

stalin was anti-communist obv

2018-05-27 17:25:07 UTC  
2018-05-27 17:25:20 UTC  

Ho Chi Minh was a communist

2018-05-27 17:25:24 UTC  

Are you that retarded

2018-05-27 17:25:50 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't mean in the alt-rightist libertarian sense.

2018-05-27 17:25:50 UTC  

Castro and Stalin are essentially nazbol/natsoc

2018-05-27 17:25:58 UTC  

Oh fucking hell.

2018-05-27 17:25:59 UTC  

Mao is his own thing

2018-05-27 17:26:04 UTC  

sure, stalin considered his group the only real communist group, but that doesn't mean he called himself communist

2018-05-27 17:26:11 UTC  

And strasser is natsoc

2018-05-27 17:26:17 UTC  

sounds like a reverse shapiro tbh

2018-05-27 17:26:24 UTC  

>calls yourself communist to gain power in the party

2018-05-27 17:26:36 UTC  

>anyone who isn't on our side isn't a true commie in the commie party

2018-05-27 17:26:42 UTC  

Holy shit why would he have said that

2018-05-27 17:26:46 UTC  

He must have been a commie

2018-05-27 17:26:49 UTC  

That's the only solution

2018-05-27 17:28:42 UTC  

it's not like being a communist makes you a communist

2018-05-27 17:29:12 UTC  

>build yourself up with the socialist movement
>socialist group are Marxist and call for world communism
>oh shit I'm actually natsoc and heavily ethnic nationalist but I suppose I can say "communism in one state" and promise it'll happen later *wink wink*
>years later people actually believe your terminology wasn't just meant to put on the act and you were a real commie

2018-05-27 17:29:16 UTC  

Lemme guess china is communist

2018-05-27 17:29:21 UTC  

They call themselves communist

2018-05-27 17:29:28 UTC  

Claim they do what's they do for communism

2018-05-27 17:29:34 UTC  

So they must be communist right

2018-05-27 17:29:45 UTC  

Oh wait a second they are full on state capitalist

2018-05-27 17:29:49 UTC  

Who woulda thunkid

2018-05-27 17:30:09 UTC  

Or North Korea

2018-05-27 17:30:15 UTC  

They're communist too right?

2018-05-27 17:30:26 UTC  

They say they are so they must be

2018-05-27 17:34:03 UTC  

@DA GOMMIE JOO They called themselves socialists, and those who disagreed untrue socialists.

@Deleted User @DA GOMMIE JOO What I am trying to say is that marxist socialists will make their own beliefs to further their own strength, while purging what they label as "untrue" socialists or "fascist oppressors" in favor of making themselves more powerful, and in the example of trotsky, he allied himself with an anti communist group, and helped wage war against the communists in order to further his own power, while still having marxist socialist beliefs, then later on, after the civil war was done with and he had gained an incredibly large amount of power, he very nearly came to power, and enforced his beliefs, now I find this very similar to strasser, who did very similar things to what trotsky did, with him having marxist socialist beliefs, and allied himself with anti communists and nationalists in the aftermath of a war torn, country. As well as that, he recruited communists and socialists who wanted to see the nation become a marxist socialist one (up to 70% of the group were as such by the night of the long knives), and just like that of trotsky, he nearly assumed power with his following and power he had gained from his past actions as a person allied with anti-communists and planned on assuming power.

2018-05-27 17:37:21 UTC  

Trotsky associated with Marxist

2018-05-27 17:37:30 UTC  

Trotsky aided them and tried to ally with them

2018-05-27 17:37:33 UTC  

After the civil war.

2018-05-27 17:37:36 UTC  

Strasser despised them

2018-05-27 17:37:39 UTC  

No before the war

2018-05-27 17:37:53 UTC  

He met Lenin and they worked together while Lenin was still out of power

2018-05-27 17:38:53 UTC  

Yes, but on a much larger scale after the war, obviously, but that doesn't replace the fact that he still involved himself with the anti-communists, while having marxist beliefs and associating himself with marxists at the same time.

2018-05-27 17:39:13 UTC  

Strasser didn't associate with Marxist

2018-05-27 17:39:21 UTC  

The report you keep quoting was a lie

2018-05-27 17:39:33 UTC  

@Deleted User You got anything to prove that?

2018-05-27 17:39:34 UTC  

70% communist or just socialist

2018-05-27 17:39:45 UTC  

The fact that the same individuals who made the report lied to hitler