Message from @killsometime
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There's a population of Cubans in Miami that might be turned against you and their's inroads domestically that they might have
True, but that's not my point
What is your point
The point is that the US's word is worthless
Are you sure that doesn’t change nation by nation? President by President? Action by action?
Every action has a reaction
One good action has one in return, a bad one has a bad reaction
Nation by nation, sure, but it's also to do with each country's position on the "game board" as it were
The US has everything to gain and nothing to lose by Korean denuclearization and the reverse for the DPRK
The US could do practically anything and the west will back them and the east will be forced to deal with them
because trying to take them on is a difficult task and doing difficult things is hard
Funding Jihadi rebels in Syria? nah that's fine
Sex abuse in detention facilities? Literally spying on EU citizens?
Black sites in Poland?
Russia is more trustworthy in this regard
because they have a more limited economy and diplomatic arsenal
They can't afford to piss off their friends and make new enemies
Their military isn't capable of occupying the world
You don’t think the US sees a denuclearized as something that is of interest to the US and its allies?
If you’re going to use military strength as a measure of trustworthiness then why does NK trust Russia more then China? For the same reason you just laid out. There are a number of reasons they don’t trust Russia more than China. There is a lot more to consider when it comes to how nations respond and interact with each other on a global level. Yes, brute power has some say in it but it isn’t the only thing that dictates it.
Why would the US lie and trigger North Korea?
Ruin the economy of Japan and SK?
Well yeah, it's the nuclearization that's in the way of their conquest of the DPRK. They have a lot to gain by comprimising their security, lol
I mean why does it compromise their security?
Because they have an outdated military and nuclear weapons are an effective deterrent
With China defending them
That's fickle
They didn't defend them at the UN
They do defend NK a lot but I’ll let you have this.
If the Chinese won’t come to the help of NK then why doesn’t the US just move in and take out the sites before they can react?
and the DPRK is in a strange situation with China and Russia. Historically it's been more allies with the USSR than with China, but it's military does have ties to China's. Additionally, there's worries that they may be seen as a client state by the Chinese whilst with the Russians they might be an effective tool.
They don't know where the sites are.
and it's not known whether the chinese are bluffing or not
It is known that the US doesn't have a lot of ability to infiltrate the DPRK. There's ethnic, language and behavioral differences that give them away.
Also the situation with the south China sea is a bit weird
They kinda do. It’s not a big nation. The US can and has found the nuclear sites. The only reason they haven’t is because of the reaction they will have from China. The nation you claim is an unfaithful ally.
They don’t need to infiltrate. They can take the nation within days with a full out military operation that moves in from 3 directions
It wouldn’t be the most difficult operation
Especially if China is an unfaithful ally
Yeah that's retarded
The DPRK has a standing army of several million
Additionally, we're talking about silos, not nuclear enrichment centers
They have google earth pictures.