Message from @Gray ☭
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You don’t think the US sees a denuclearized as something that is of interest to the US and its allies?
If you’re going to use military strength as a measure of trustworthiness then why does NK trust Russia more then China? For the same reason you just laid out. There are a number of reasons they don’t trust Russia more than China. There is a lot more to consider when it comes to how nations respond and interact with each other on a global level. Yes, brute power has some say in it but it isn’t the only thing that dictates it.
Why would the US lie and trigger North Korea?
To have them decimate Seoul?
Ruin the economy of Japan and SK?
Well yeah, it's the nuclearization that's in the way of their conquest of the DPRK. They have a lot to gain by comprimising their security, lol
I mean why does it compromise their security?
Because they have an outdated military and nuclear weapons are an effective deterrent
With China defending them
That's fickle
They didn't defend them at the UN
They do defend NK a lot but I’ll let you have this.
If the Chinese won’t come to the help of NK then why doesn’t the US just move in and take out the sites before they can react?
and the DPRK is in a strange situation with China and Russia. Historically it's been more allies with the USSR than with China, but it's military does have ties to China's. Additionally, there's worries that they may be seen as a client state by the Chinese whilst with the Russians they might be an effective tool.
They don't know where the sites are.
and it's not known whether the chinese are bluffing or not
It is known that the US doesn't have a lot of ability to infiltrate the DPRK. There's ethnic, language and behavioral differences that give them away.
Also the situation with the south China sea is a bit weird
They kinda do. It’s not a big nation. The US can and has found the nuclear sites. The only reason they haven’t is because of the reaction they will have from China. The nation you claim is an unfaithful ally.
They don’t need to infiltrate. They can take the nation within days with a full out military operation that moves in from 3 directions
It wouldn’t be the most difficult operation
Especially if China is an unfaithful ally
Yeah that's retarded
Additionally, we're talking about silos, not nuclear enrichment centers
They have google earth pictures.
They rely on quantity. The US and the allies rely on quality and technology
Right because that worked well in vietnam and lebanon
There's a reason why the Americans changed tactics to "support rebels"
and the songun policy was useful because it meant that if the US invaded the DPRK could destroy all of the US' military sites and Seoul in the span of like 15 minutes
Different places call for different tactics
Either way
That isn’t what we are even talking about. Why does it have to resolve to a military situation?
What’s wrong with a peaceful solution?
We're talking about the US
And NK
With them it's about domination
I’m willing to give NK a chance to redeem itself after it has gone back on its work and different treaties countless of times
lol
Yet you are not willing to do the same
Yeah because the US has a history of over 50 years of doing this
And NK doesn’t have a history of breaking agreements?
In particular, the last instance the US and DPRK tried to do this exact thing
The US broke the agreement