https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UuXT1gtWJo

@Mr. X and you talk that Russians were faggots showing how disoriented Austrian and other philistines directed by reactionary classes surrender to nazi invaders

In fact while many Western people had illusions that Versaille system would prevent new imperialist war political leaders in USSR understood that there would be new world war and they need protect Soviet country as base of revolution. So in 1920-1930 there was rebuild of army which connected to industrialization and collectivization (when liberals scream about "bloody industrialization" they must remember that if not new threat of war, there was a lot of possibilities for this in 1925, 1927, we may do this more slower and more non-authoritarian).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo_cUCp6f4o

Yeah they knew there would be a new world war so they chose to make it happen by allying with the nazis then getting destroyed by them, what a joke. <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

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@Mr. X but you as always forget about the thing that USSR suggested western democracies in 1930s system of collective security in Europe basis for antifascist coalition. In 1934 USSR became part League of Nations. In 1936-1939 USSR was only country supported antifascist struggle in Spain while western democracies with their "neutrality" helped in fact only to establish new fascist dictatorship in Europe. In 1935 USSR signed with France and Czechoslovakia treaty about military allience which France ruined after Munich treaty in 1938. Molotov-Ribbentrop pact 1939 was signed after Munic treaty European countries remained Soviet Union 1 on 1 with Nazi Germany so for prevention of agression and receive time on preparations we had to signed this thing.

Holy shit you talk too much.

is this made in google translate?

Yes I dont care about spain I care for the nazis who actually created ww2, not neutral countries lol.

And they were neutral because of how weak they were, and they supported the nazis anyway

what's these treatys exactly?

Here is one more fact before visit Ribbentrop and signification of pact there were consultations with representatives of Western allies which failed.

@Mr. X "neutrality" of those countries and support as counterforce to bolshevism helped to rise fascism in Europe

No this didnt cause fascism in europe lol

@Mr. X yes they were. Read more about USSR participation in international relationships rather to use liberal, cold war stamp about "unity of two evils". Communist Internationale supported antimilitary struggle in Europe.

@Mr. X cause of fascism was general crisis of capitalism and rising of communist movement so that was reactionary answer. If not world revolution then world war that was alternatives and unfortunately second became real.

no they werent, what caused fascism in europe was communism too, they saw the great depression and how shit communism was so they decided to be fascists since it was new and organized at the time. and allying with nazis to take poland is helping them. Dont forget that. The cause of fascism was the general crisis of democracy, capitalism and communism. Not just capitalism lol. If it was only because of capitalism they would be communist.

also the league of nations was a joke

Communist trend in USSR was not in crisis) It developed while capitalist West was in crisis that true, crisis of bourgeois democracy yes but the answer by fascism was even worse

yeah it was, there were a lot of communist crisis

Yes but not forget Czechoslovakia and Austria was occupied with acception of Western allies

And?

And Poland participated in occupation of Czechoslovakia and by the way "poor" Poland had colonial ambitions and ambitions to restoration Rzech Pospolita conquer Lithuania and Ukraine and Belarus from USSR.

Proof?

@Mr. X while you talk that USSR and Germany occupied Poland remember that occupations of Germany were supported by "democratic" countries

@Mr. X read about polish nationalism

also if its from the ussr especially during stalin then I dont care if poland wanted to attack the ussr.

specially during Civil War

No I meant like a source

so? Germany shouldve been occupied

otherwise it would still be too unstable

logically taking poland would break the treaty

neither the nazis or soviets cared

clearly

For basic

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8F_%D0%B4%D0%BE_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_and_Colonial_League

Kk Ill check it out later, I have to go now, peace

@Mr. X did Allies cared about Czechoslovakia and Austria? And USSR didn't take any ethnic Polish territory. USSR received Western Belarus and Western Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q11Bo7X-F_4 - Polish propoganda on occupation of Czechoslovak Zaolzia and before that time "peaceful" bourgeois Poland had war with Czechoslovakia and many incidents on borders there.