i think yugoslavia had a right to put down the rebellions but it failed to do so and lost all claims to that land

i believe might makes right

Nothing is right

That's the issue here

We're not talking about what is right

But rather legal

And legality is already a shitty subject

it was legal back than to invade countries aswell as no international standard was set

thats why we were able to take california

Once more

What's your point

You claim the confederacy was in the wrong

And went on to say they started the war

Implying it wasn't a war of northern aggression

Did the confederacy have a legal right to do what they did

Yes

well i think we all agree what they did and what they stood for was infact immoral so i wont even argue morally but legally actually quite vague as we did not have a standard either way evuantually the supreme court came in but only after the war stating it would have to also be agreed by the rest of the states it would have been intresting had they chose to go to the supreme court about this instead of going about secession by just declaring it which was illegal because they did not go through the proper means

if i just decare my house a country that is not legal if i go to all 50 states and they all approve that should be legal

ill simplify this they did not get approval therefore it was not legal

and i think a standard for this was made by the shays rebellion and several other reblions when the country was still being founded when they destroyed theese rebellions and executed thier leaders

my opinion of lincoln is mixed he was overly cruel to native americans but yet he did put down an evil terrorist group (the confederacy) and yes ill reffer to them as a terrorist group as they were rebelling against the united states and controlled large sections of lands evil is a subjective term but by todays standards they would be considered similar to isis

I downloaded this really cool Hearts of Iron 4™ mod that divides the world between the USSR and USA

cool

@Deleted User do you agree or disagree with my statement that isis is very similar to the confederacy if it was founded today

wdym

they are both terrrorist groups one just fights by conventinal means

they both say they are soverign countries

they both have legal slavery

they both are very very reactionary

they both are muslim

wait what

join my server

niggero

https://discord.gg/6pPAz2n

no not at all the confederacy was radical christians

*autism intensifies*

religion and countries go together like oil water and fire

Is multi a girl too

when i see people supporting extremist governments i just want to nuke the world