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So that shenanigans aside,
Ye I mean
Trotsky wouldnt have shit all over the union
And it probably wouldnt have been a purgy mess
look stalin was doing what he had to do to preserve the union
So um
Anyone want to debate religion
the purges had evidence
they werent even purges but trials
So that means that the administraition would be more of a chaotic mess than it was under stalin, and the union would be likely to collapse due to trotksy prioritizing internationalism over everything else, how that would have turned out, would be interesting, we could have seen japan take eastern siberia and the far eastern artic territories, while regions such as siberia and the middle eastern countries such as khazachistan would declare indepencance.
Stalin legit fucked everyone
And ruined the spanish revolution
spain ruined the spanish revolution
And internationalism doesnt inherently mean collapse
No more nonsensical leaps please
there was no way for them to get a good route
to fund
and yet they tried
but you still fucked it up
They didnt try
@Comrade Skeltal Stalin fucked everyone to preserve what was the mess of the soviet union, the spanish revolution was bound to fail, after getting support from germany, italy, and more, the communists in spain were outmatched, outclassed, and were outgunned toward the latter half of the war.
They funded anti revolutionary communists
Because he was opposed to popular movements that might frighten the west
you shouldnt have fought the communist until after the civil war was done
alll you had to do was wait
Don't take that as me defending stalin, but good god, had he not taken action into his own hands, it is likely that the USSR would have collapsed.
Particularly because he foresaw the WWII shenanigans
And no, they were literally counter revolutionary
There was no waiting
They wantes to reverse all the progress made in catalonia, andalusia, basque region
In favor of appealing to land owners and liberals
last time i checked that's not communism
And Stalin only funded communists for so long as they cracked down on the other movements
Cause sectarianism amirite
well if it isn't my good friend Rex
And, because they were cracking down, most of the good weaponry wasnt even going to fight the fascists
@Comrade Skeltal To stalin's credit, he is right not to have funded communist movements that would have collapsed internally, if they were successful in some way.
It was being used to suppress revolutionary action and enforce limits on anarchist action
And again, I thought I asked for no more random logical leaps?
if you two just got along a little longer franco would not have gained power
@Comrade Skeltal I don't know what you are talking about.