>what if such an arena already exists and is called USA <:thonking:318673885497262091>

You've said too much🔫

i'm all for unbridled access to guns for everyone _except_ Americans

this

gun access is working well for the swiss

but if you let the am*ricans hold arms... we all can see

>gun access is working well for the swiss
except that's old info and they backed off from it

partially because of such accidents

yeah I actually know that

but I was memeing

and anyway it was still better than in the US

the worst thing is all those insecure people "I have to carry muh gun to defend myself GRRR" <:grug:474506349741342720>

you can carry a gun and defend yourself in Poland as well, just get a fucking license, yes it's an effort but apparently you need it for your survival so...

and it will somewhat filter out dumb 50 iq grugs from shotgunning their neighbours

also, sometimes even people say that in case of a foreign invasion a country with liberal gun laws is more defensible

except it isnt because all those civillians are then legitimate military targets under international law and you can legally shell the hell out of them

>also, sometimes even people say that in case of a foreign invasion a country with liberal gun laws is more defensible
I seriously doubt it

and anyway how do you engage a military squad with some rednecks, jesus

>I seriously doubt it
I doubt it as well but I keep hearing about it

that the US is iinvincible because it has millions of civillians with guns

I'd rather say its invincible because it got the best military in the world by far

but with the US they have this deep in their cultural DNA

because actually people's millitia was a factor in the american revolutionary war

so rednecks will forever keep latching onto that

but its not only that the warfare has evolved so much that professional units will shell the fuck out of any rednecks

but also that even in that war in the first place, the militia was only succesfully when engaged supporting the bulk of professional forces to provide additional number advantage factor

it wasnt able to do anything against the british on its own

it was only after american military reorganization and when that militia itself got some actual training and was properly engaged that americans started achieving successes

>engage a military squad

that's what the insurgency is about and many of them succeded in the course of history?

>all those civillians are then legitimate military targets under international law and you can legally shell the hell out of them
yeah, that's kinda the mistake poland made in 1944
>they have this deep in their cultural DNA
I seriously doubt it's as much for "patriotic"/safety reasons as for them just wanting to shoot their guns. Sure they'll say they want guns because "muh patriotism" and "muh safety", but I doubt that's an honest reason. If guns were no fun to shoot with they'd forget about them. That's the genuine reason - fun. Strongest american value.

and these "rednecks" form militias all over the USA, actively shoot and traintogether

>that's what the insurgency is about and many of them succeded in the course of history?
like?

have you read what I said?

are you even remotely familiar with the american revolutionary war?

are you?

there was a professional american army that won the war

I mean not professional in the modern sense but actual standing army, not the militia

Washington didn't command the militia