@Роберт Hmm,

okay, so we are operating on left-wing simply because, "ooh these guys pretend to sympathize with class-conscious lefties, even though they constantly sabotage the left with identity politics"

@alines Yep.

Do you mind if I fix your ", they were supported by the allies, " in , they were """""""supported""""" by the allies, "

@Роберт Sure, they got some support from the allies, but not much, and it became lighter as time went on.

When they got support it was late 1943

When they were winning the war

Thefore it was useless

Especially if you compare it with what USSR produced

@Роберт Not completely so, but to the point where it hardly mattered.

I can't show you right now USSR production and what they got with Allied support

The USSR produced complete shit, their only advantage was numbers, and attrition.

To show you how it made barely 5% of what USSR produced

And no, you forgot the T-34/85

USSR had tech aswell

Tech that was completely inferior when compared to nazi, and allied tanks.

Did you seriously say that Allies had better tanks than USSR?

That's a good trigger

USSR had numbers that they basically could have fucking world war z zombie walled that shit

Sure, it may have been better when compared to most japanese and italian tanks, but that is besides the point.

I feel like I have had this conversation before.

Do you know why Germans made the Tiger in the first place?

And even then

They had problems with soviet tanks

@Роберт Yes, show me a soviet tank that could beat a sherman in WW2.

Did you really just ask that?

@Роберт Yes.

You have many, KV-1, KV-2, T-34, T-34-85, IS-2, etc...

Just compare them

And you will see

Why do you think Allies barely did anything against 10% of the German army

in the west

@Роберт What? According to wikipedia the T32 was an american tank.

Good for you, so was the Calliope but we both know who made it.

@Роберт And according to wikipedia the T-34 was also outclassed by the whermact.

No shit, why do you think T-34/85 was made

Thats like saying that Panzer I was outclassed by the soviets

Retarded logic.

And the IS-2 was made right as the war was coming to an end.

It was still in the WW2

Look at Japan.