How do we achieve true MEANING in our lives? Is it by trodding along this empty path of self serving nothingness? I reject that. Nationalists reject that.

you can make whatever meaning in your life you want, i don't think the meaning in life is to segregate ourselves by arbitrary characteristics

But it is the NATURAL CONDITION of the human race to want to associate with those most like themselves, and those who share a common past and therefore future. Why are political parties invariably balkanised by race? Why do individuals always seek to marry individuals of their race in an exponentially higher rate than other races? Because they are given FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION, and given this, the individual chooses members of their own tribe.

Multiculturalism is state enforced and unnatural. It is not the natural condition of the human race, and it does nothing but divide up the nation inevitably into quabbling and immorality.

so the united states forces people of other cultures to move there then?

That’s what an immigration policy, funded by big business and the cheap labor lobby, is called, yes.

I don't buy into america forcing anyone to move there. if you wanna talk about big business and the cheap labor market you can talk about exploiting people in other countries. I don't think that Apple would want the people making their iphones to be americans because then they would have to actually pay them a decent wage

Yup. Spot on. And naturally, people move to have a higher wage, although it is a surprisingly LOW number of individuals who actually make the decision to immigrate despite the invariable fact that a better lifestyle awaits them in the west. When they arrive, these third worlders depress wages for the entire working class, and provoke resentment amongst the majority as they tend to vote in blocs, resulting in a chain reaction of balkanised political disaster. Putnam’s 2005 study showed that diversity decreases social trust exponentially and results in substantially less communal involvement - a “hunkering down,” he concluded, of the nation. Multiculturalism is anathema to the idea of a nation. Putnam didn’t even want to release the findings of his study because he believed it would undermine trust in the western multicultural system. Doesn’t that tell you everything you need to know about multiculturalism? It is an Orwellian lie, based upon the unscientific and false premise that “diversity is our strength,” and therefore in the interest of the people who are accepting the immigrants.

we simply have different solutions to that issue, then. i believe that abolishing capital would end the exploitation of people for cheap labor and also prevent people from being forced to go somewhere just because of money, and I also believe this solution would be better because it maximizes freedom

I can respect that unlike many leftists you are honest and acknowledge at least some of the inevitable web of conundrums which come with immigration of other cultures and ethnicities. However, your proposed solution is a false one because it is anathema to the human condition. Capital, and the capitalistic system in general, has been the foundation of the innovative European mind which has allowed us to do so much good in a very short period of time. Without capital there is no incentive through which innovation can be financed - and the incentivised promulgation of ideas is the natural nature of humanity. But of course, the proposed elimination of capital, as flawed as it is, does not even begin to touch on the other issues of immigration - most notably the inherent distrust and division it fosters within the nation state, and the fact that given reasonable labor laws (as there are throughout the west) there IS NO EXPLOITATION of the labour - one of the best ways to measure this is through political stability and wage price increases since the 1900’s. The EXPLOITATION and DIVISION only comes in the importation of hundreds of thousands of individuals who share a different cultural system (even if it is as respectable as the domestic one) and therefore reduce wages and foster hatred.

This has been a productive and enjoyable conversation, but I must go.

okay, see you

@EthRabbi Now this guy get's it.

wyh no one have roles

@maytriks Firefly hasn't done anything with the server.

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will he ever do anything

Probably not.

He has practically given up on it.

No mods, he only comes here once a week for a few minutes to post porn and propaganda.

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then leave this shitty ass server and join one that is moderated

Show me a leftist server that dosen't have corrupt mods.

true

lol

There’s lots of good Marxist Leninist servers

DM ME pls

*bunkers

DM you?

Y

@Zax

Oh

yes dm me

them

I’m not in that many

@Zax Just post it here.

even commissar elmo doesnt have those servers

reeee

Sorry I went out to retrieve some memes

@Zax Is it possible to get national populism in power in germany?