The time gap between first colonization and when the British empire was established.

@fannybandit One that you are clearly incapable of making a point out of.

There you will find the militia.

Established here in the US.

Should've clarified...

@Nicholas91 Oh it would be immense in the power struggle for territory and resources, but not in the sense of a factional one.

If a civil war broke out, it would be federal government vs everyone.

@fannybandit Still don't get it, just make a clear point for once in your life.

Who the fuck would side with the feds?

@Deleted User interesting

@fannybandit When has a civil war ever worked like that

Here's a point: A civil war, right now, would end the current establishment in no-time.

@Nicholas91 His ego is massive, his brain, not so much.

The current establishment seems highly factionalised as it is

@fannybandit No shit sherlock, we already agreed upon that.

When has there ever been a period in time where the military, militia, and people hated it's government?

That's my point.

@Nicholas91 The establishment would crumble in a civil war though.

@Deleted User why?

@Deleted User Im working on the basis that a civil war would see a divided establishment

like the last one

@Deleted User Yet you're still talking about it.

why do you guys keep @ing othe people theres only three of you talking

@fannybandit >Spanish civil wars
>Rome
>Mouscouvy VS Mongolians
>Chinese civil war
>Germany
>Brazil
>Ottoman empire
>Holy roman empire
I could go on all day.

In which of those revolutions did the military and the people fight on the same side?

omg

@fannybandit
>Rome
>Mouscoucy VS Mongolians
>Germany
>Brazil
>Ottoman Empire
>Holy roman Empire
>Aztec empire

Those were not civil wars...just wars.

Also, you're naming empires...not civil wars/revolutions.

@fannybandit Geez, it isn't like these all had similar civil wars or invasions in which their lives were totally changed and their militaries and civilians fought side by side in conflicts.

When the people and the military fight on the same side, government/establishments always lose.

@fannybandit The US civil war saw the establishment divide - then the military

It's about interests, not how they fight.

For the first time in human history, the people and the military have an interest in abolishing the current establishment.

They can do this very easily and lawfully.

really... the first time?!

Yes.

Every other time, the government controlled the military to fight against the people.

@Nicholas91 The US did a study in the past, in which it determined that in the case of a civil war, 30% of the population would IMMEDIEATLY fight, and 90% of the military would abandon post IMMEDIEATLY, and the structure of power within the military and federal government would crumble, as well as that, foreign powers would also jump in and fund their own sides.

In other words, the US would be toast.

The US would be toast if the military divided.