Message from @RobotWizard
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It isn't revolutionary if it isn't inclusive
I think vanguardism probably failed as an idea
I would definitely agree
Vanguardism?
It just created a new class system
rather than abolishing it
The idea that an elite would transition us into communism
You just create a class of ruling intellectuals
who essentially own the means of production
This is what made me leave marxism as well
or rather ML
on behalf of the people
I don't agree with that view.
Interesting
(1) That's similar to Plato's view that Philosopher Kings should rule, which I wholly reject
ah
21st century communism has to have a whole new set of strategies and frameworks
sorry I thought you were disagreeing with us on it
but Capitalism changes it's frameworks
as well
at least as a means of preserving itself
Yeah capitalism always adapts
The issue is informing and educating people and awakening their consciousness to the system they live in.
Yeah so mass culture
Partially, capitalism sustains itself by the proletariat convincing the working class that capitalism actually benefits them, allowing the working class to dismiss the exploitation they face
is so good a form of propaganda
bourgeois oops
@Nicholas91 which in itself is a product of capitalism
which is what makes it hard for leftists to capture mainstream attention
Well it's so good that people police themselves politically
@Uriel Well these adaptations do benefit the working class so they do lap it up.
that's why democratic socialism is a thing
Not to shit on dem-socs
Capitalism has a way of synthesizing and absorbing new things
case in point female Ghostbusters and Black Panther
Yes good point
Dem soc us cancer
Is