the argument here is that capitalism needs unemployment to exist

@RobotWizard#3986 Okay agreed fuck capitalism. How does your ideal system solve this?

and the answer is yes

Simple as that

honestly your not dumb if yopu are capable of being reasoned with

so whats the relevance of this point

lemme get there

what are you trying to get at here

of course people are unemployed before they get a fucking job

jesus christ

so would you also agree with me that as the system is currently we are capable of producing enough goods to sustain society

its just an issue of the control of the means of production and distribution of goods right?

uh yes that's one of the advantages capitalism has over socialism

Drives the value of workers down since there's plenty to choose from? Yeah not sure what you're asserting

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since when did workers have a value

I ASSUME that is the point here

@Brickiest Brick The folk have value

So if we are capable of producing enough goods with members of the population being unemployed doesn;t it stand to reason that we can't give all these people jobs to meet the requirements

of society

the tougher job you have, the higher you're worth

I don't know about your abboriginal self

it's simple

i'm not giving a mcdonald's worker 50 bucks a fucking hour

people are unemployed for a number of reasons

The more you contribute to the people the more valued you are but if you work you get what you need regardless. Lazy work earns you a trip to the concentration camp

@Brickiest Brick "since when did workers have a value"
The value that a worker has is that they produce

To concentrate

On producing our bullets

you seem to like using blanket arguments

yes i said that but i fell back once i thought about the context

That's my ideal system

TBH

workers have a value

the harder or more important your job the more you get paid

it's a simple concept really

If you refuse to work you even get this neat badge that denotes you as 'anti-social'

not everyone is equal

but the issue is there isn't a need for all these workers

So the guards know to beat you more

and over producing shit for the sake of creating work isn't ethical consumption