until she figured out that therapy itself has been split into two camps

i hesistate to make comparisons

The analytic and the behaviouralist

but she was basically in an an abusive right wing religious group

the latter is CBT and pathology and all that

had a psychotic break and got the fuck out of it

She's also bipolar

I have anxiety

Yeah people often have traumatic events happen to them

or long held beliefs from child hood

I'm an atheist but her family is catholic and she hasn't stepped inside a church and i don't discuss religion with her that much

other than to really support her when she's discussing her experiences

I dont believe in pathologising mental illness. you deal with individuals

nobody is the same

and no treatment for mental illness is the exact same

Yeah but talking

is the best we got

Not fucking ssris

I think I get what you're saying

we shouldn't use it as a label or identifier

but we should still treat it

Right.

agreed

we aren't defined by those things

but by what we do

I meet so many people that, as i said, tell me their diagnosis straight away

case in point stephen hawking

The idea that there is systemic mental health issues

is not even considered

Yeah thats a good point

@Nicholas91 how we deal with mental health needs to change

for sure

openess is good

But I'm pretty sure we guys all agree

Yeah I think the left needs to take it on

and politicise it

but that's not getitng to the roots

like many other issues of the day its a half hearted response

We have to do away with the idea that it can ever be a hard science

We don't need to get anyone to admit to being mentally ill

but honest genuine compassion on the issue might reach some