Message from @sosa
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God?
No, they are human made, but such things cannot be done while under "natural" circumstances in the wild, it takes humans to purposefully do them.
According to your logic, only circumstances which arise "in the wild" can be considered "natural". You're also implying that humans cannot do things purposefully "in the wild".
Am I wrong?
I did not intend to imply that humans cannot do things purposefully while in nature, if we were incapable of doing things purposefully and artifically, then I doubt that we would be here today.
What things have we done that can be considered artificial though?
Yhea, I would say you are correct, minus the implications part.
guys is juche based
Yes
agreed kill all jews
No
Kill all yous.
yous
whoa mate
@Deleted User Take a look all around you, and think about your beliefs, much of what we created is artifical, not to say that most of our creations today have been a bad thing, but your beliefs are what I can also say this for 99% of the beliefs today, because they are made for an age in which humans separate themselves from nature, and surround themselves with materialistic and artifical things.
also IQ doesn't matter
being intellectual is retarded and there's no point
you're not going to start a revolution with books and literature
@sosa Kind of matters, as it determines the majority of the potential of your intelligence, but then again, it is a number that people take way too far.
I completely agree with you about beliefs being socially constructed and what not, but I don't agree that we have "separated" ourselves from nature. We are still very much in nature, whether we are eating a Big Mac at McDonald's or climbing Mt. Everest.
sorry what i meant to say was, IQ does matter, but I meant it shouldn't be a defining characteristic of how a movement is
I guess it just comes down to your definition.
@Deleted User Sure, we can walk outside, and we can look at tree's and plants that we have planted for ourselves to look at, but in all reality, it isn't the same.
@sosa True.
What I'm saying is, if you want a revolution, you have to destroy the system
If there ever comes a day in humanities existence where we close off ourselves from the outside world and we live in climate controlled domes, that will really be the day when we make human living itself artifical.
that's dystopic
@sosa Yhea, it is, and I am going on a tangent.
It isn't the same as what? A mushroom spreading it's spores with the wind or a bee pollinating a plant, enabling it to reproduce?
what is your ideology?
im curious
Of course a person planting some seeds is a different method, that is obvious. But I fail to see how that is any less natural.
@Deleted User That's sex, and not really, I think you took that the wrong way, what I meant to say is that, we surround ourselves with our cities in which millions can live, and it really isn't the same, as if we lived in nature, not to say that such a thing is inhereintly a bad thing, but it really isn't the same as if we were living in nature.
How are we not living in nature though? Is "civilization" somehow beyond it?
Is a hunter-gatherer lifestyle the only natural kind?
@sosa Oh I am an all american nazi, but that is a can of worms we can get into in another day.
@Deleted User In a sense we are, we still breath it's air, and live (at least somewhat) near it, we are not beyond it entirely, at least not yet. Not really, the most natural system I can think of for human living, is a tribal like group, with each person doing the job they are best at, as well as a natural heirarchy based off of strength, intelligence, and leadership.
@Deleted User I don't really know what I am. I guess closest would be national socialist, but I mainly just shitpost
Fucking hell 8:30 PM already? I will be back in a moment.
Fair enough. I can understand where you're coming from.
@esgee Are you still in that shitshow you guys call anticom?