Message from @rogalik

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2019-06-12 21:23:35 UTC  

how do you prove you got poorer when theres growth <:thonking:318673885497262091>

2019-06-12 21:24:04 UTC  

GDP growth doesn't make you richer

2019-06-12 21:24:23 UTC  

all goods became less affordable at once

2019-06-12 21:24:25 UTC  

Apart from this I wonder how people would react when they would realise they get 3 euro per hour when french get 12 for same work <:haha:318675605233336330>

2019-06-12 21:24:36 UTC  

hi

2019-06-12 21:24:41 UTC  

hi kitty

2019-06-12 21:25:05 UTC  

they shouldnt introduce the euro in eastern europe

2019-06-12 21:25:10 UTC  

until theyve already caught up

2019-06-12 21:25:21 UTC  

^ this

2019-06-12 21:25:24 UTC  

yeah in 600 years lol

2019-06-12 21:25:30 UTC  

but western europe are the ones benefiting

2019-06-12 21:25:35 UTC  

so it makes sense why it is this way

2019-06-12 21:25:54 UTC  

not Western Europe, but Germany specifically

2019-06-12 21:26:23 UTC  

germany is western europe

2019-06-12 21:26:29 UTC  

>GDP growth doesn't make you richer
im just like

2019-06-12 21:26:32 UTC  

stunned

2019-06-12 21:26:36 UTC  

and dont even know what to say

2019-06-12 21:26:52 UTC  

you don't need anything to say

2019-06-12 21:27:00 UTC  

do you like alternative economics or what

2019-06-12 21:27:24 UTC  

are regular economics alternative now

2019-06-12 21:28:11 UTC  

if gdp doesn't in general make country richer then it's like we're talking about maths and you're saying 1+1=3 it's ooh

2019-06-12 21:28:14 UTC  

what can I say

2019-06-12 21:28:44 UTC  

there is nothing to talk about becuase theres no foundation you can base anything on

2019-06-12 21:28:55 UTC  

what else you propose to measure economic performance

2019-06-12 21:30:05 UTC  

I specifically stated the introduction to euro made consumer goods less affordable, therefore rendering the population poorer -- whatever GDP growth rates are present, the purchasing power is much more relevant

2019-06-12 21:30:20 UTC  

of course im well aware of pecularities of gdp and that high gdp doesnt necessarily mean people are well off but I dont see much of it applying here and anyway, these are details, in rought terms gdp *always* applies and theres no going over it

2019-06-12 21:31:02 UTC  

>whatever GDP growth rates are present, the purchasing power is much more relevant
but there exist a thing called GDP PPP to measure that

2019-06-12 21:31:42 UTC  

GDP PPP of Russia and Poland matched before 2014, sometimes Russia even surpassed Poland, yet I don't really need to point out which country was doing better

2019-06-12 21:32:26 UTC  

im well aware of this fact and I know why thats the case the explanation is rather straightforward

2019-06-12 21:33:34 UTC  

yet that explanation will be irrelevant in relation to you not being comfortable with my statement about poverty and introduction to euro in Baltic states

2019-06-12 21:33:49 UTC  

simple as

2019-06-12 21:34:05 UTC  

not being aggressive or something

2019-06-12 21:34:14 UTC  

but again in case of poland and russia still gdp applies and there is nothing wrong with it, it's people misleadingly interpreting it

2019-06-12 21:35:14 UTC  

I mean yeah you totally can have poverty and high gdp growth

2019-06-12 21:35:32 UTC  

wait what did I say in thebeginning

2019-06-12 21:35:45 UTC  

ahh

2019-06-12 21:35:54 UTC  

the point was about dynamics of both, my initial statement referred to poverty increasing while GDP continues to grow

2019-06-12 21:36:20 UTC  

what I mean is not really the case of Estonia is that in general higher GDP = richer country(not people!)

2019-06-12 21:37:08 UTC  

yeah i just misunderstood you I think

2019-06-12 21:37:10 UTC  

nvm

2019-06-12 21:37:11 UTC  

the >country (not people) reference was the reason I clarified my statement later