Message from @rogalik

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2019-06-12 21:23:00 UTC  

the introduction of euro in the Baltic states rapidly made everyone poorer and as these countries didn't really recover from the Great Recession, it slowed their growth even further

2019-06-12 21:23:13 UTC  

can't say anything about Slovakia, though

2019-06-12 21:23:35 UTC  

how do you prove you got poorer when theres growth <:thonking:318673885497262091>

2019-06-12 21:24:04 UTC  

GDP growth doesn't make you richer

2019-06-12 21:24:23 UTC  

all goods became less affordable at once

2019-06-12 21:24:25 UTC  

Apart from this I wonder how people would react when they would realise they get 3 euro per hour when french get 12 for same work <:haha:318675605233336330>

2019-06-12 21:24:36 UTC  

hi

2019-06-12 21:24:41 UTC  

hi kitty

2019-06-12 21:25:05 UTC  

they shouldnt introduce the euro in eastern europe

2019-06-12 21:25:10 UTC  

until theyve already caught up

2019-06-12 21:25:21 UTC  

^ this

2019-06-12 21:25:24 UTC  

yeah in 600 years lol

2019-06-12 21:25:30 UTC  

but western europe are the ones benefiting

2019-06-12 21:25:35 UTC  

so it makes sense why it is this way

2019-06-12 21:25:54 UTC  

not Western Europe, but Germany specifically

2019-06-12 21:26:23 UTC  

germany is western europe

2019-06-12 21:26:29 UTC  

>GDP growth doesn't make you richer
im just like

2019-06-12 21:26:32 UTC  

stunned

2019-06-12 21:26:36 UTC  

and dont even know what to say

2019-06-12 21:26:52 UTC  

you don't need anything to say

2019-06-12 21:27:00 UTC  

do you like alternative economics or what

2019-06-12 21:27:24 UTC  

are regular economics alternative now

2019-06-12 21:28:11 UTC  

if gdp doesn't in general make country richer then it's like we're talking about maths and you're saying 1+1=3 it's ooh

2019-06-12 21:28:14 UTC  

what can I say

2019-06-12 21:28:44 UTC  

there is nothing to talk about becuase theres no foundation you can base anything on

2019-06-12 21:28:55 UTC  

what else you propose to measure economic performance

2019-06-12 21:30:05 UTC  

I specifically stated the introduction to euro made consumer goods less affordable, therefore rendering the population poorer -- whatever GDP growth rates are present, the purchasing power is much more relevant

2019-06-12 21:30:20 UTC  

of course im well aware of pecularities of gdp and that high gdp doesnt necessarily mean people are well off but I dont see much of it applying here and anyway, these are details, in rought terms gdp *always* applies and theres no going over it

2019-06-12 21:31:02 UTC  

>whatever GDP growth rates are present, the purchasing power is much more relevant
but there exist a thing called GDP PPP to measure that

2019-06-12 21:31:42 UTC  

GDP PPP of Russia and Poland matched before 2014, sometimes Russia even surpassed Poland, yet I don't really need to point out which country was doing better

2019-06-12 21:32:26 UTC  

im well aware of this fact and I know why thats the case the explanation is rather straightforward

2019-06-12 21:33:34 UTC  

yet that explanation will be irrelevant in relation to you not being comfortable with my statement about poverty and introduction to euro in Baltic states

2019-06-12 21:33:49 UTC  

simple as

2019-06-12 21:34:05 UTC  

not being aggressive or something

2019-06-12 21:34:14 UTC  

but again in case of poland and russia still gdp applies and there is nothing wrong with it, it's people misleadingly interpreting it

2019-06-12 21:35:14 UTC  

I mean yeah you totally can have poverty and high gdp growth

2019-06-12 21:35:32 UTC  

wait what did I say in thebeginning

2019-06-12 21:35:45 UTC  

ahh

2019-06-12 21:35:54 UTC  

the point was about dynamics of both, my initial statement referred to poverty increasing while GDP continues to grow

2019-06-12 21:36:20 UTC  

what I mean is not really the case of Estonia is that in general higher GDP = richer country(not people!)

2019-06-12 21:37:08 UTC  

yeah i just misunderstood you I think