Message from @lemion

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2019-07-30 16:48:10 UTC  

Hardly a social service

2019-07-30 16:48:29 UTC  

But traditionally the state must own a good amount form bussines it started or are of national interest

2019-07-30 16:48:49 UTC  

And they own the power grid and all natural resources

2019-07-30 16:48:54 UTC  

>belief in free enterprise free markets
pp. 281–2, Macmillan, 1996

2019-07-30 16:48:56 UTC  

@rogalik look at norway, monopoly on alcohol, why? To control the alcoholism

2019-07-30 16:49:16 UTC  

@lemion it's normal for the state to own the powergrid

2019-07-30 16:49:20 UTC  

Tru

2019-07-30 16:49:24 UTC  

It can liberalize the distribution

2019-07-30 16:49:27 UTC  

@ÜltraÜberGöttKönig where does that say socdem economics are explicitly considered "right-wing"?

2019-07-30 16:49:28 UTC  

State has a monopoly on water and electricity delivery in most countries as well, it doesn't make them socialists

2019-07-30 16:49:55 UTC  

@Cielodiluna di Bisanzio the reason they do that is out of socialist motives

2019-07-30 16:50:09 UTC  

Is it a left-leaning policy? Yes. Does that mean the country is socialist? No

2019-07-30 16:50:34 UTC  

any proper source you'll look into will classify socdem economics as either centre(Blairite Third Way) or centre-left(classical socdem, Nordic model)

2019-07-30 16:50:36 UTC  

Because if they liberalize there is a chance that a toxic monopoly can take place and some people won't have access

2019-07-30 16:50:39 UTC  

A country doesn't have to be full-on socialist to be considered left-leaning

2019-07-30 16:50:41 UTC  

you just don't understand how these classifications are made

2019-07-30 16:51:00 UTC  

socdem as a whole is center that is correct but the free trade aspect is right wing

2019-07-30 16:51:06 UTC  

as I confirmed with the soruce

2019-07-30 16:51:06 UTC  

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! T. COMMIE

2019-07-30 16:51:13 UTC  

free trade = right
socdem uses free trade

2019-07-30 16:51:25 UTC  

Also the 100% tax on petrol cars

2019-07-30 16:51:35 UTC  

monarchy = right
republic = left

2019-07-30 16:51:36 UTC  

ez

2019-07-30 16:51:37 UTC  

And 0% tax on electric cars

2019-07-30 16:51:38 UTC  

Based

2019-07-30 16:51:41 UTC  

@lemion lmao

2019-07-30 16:51:44 UTC  

i really hate the right left spectrum

2019-07-30 16:51:48 UTC  

in current year

2019-07-30 16:51:49 UTC  

Yeah

2019-07-30 16:51:50 UTC  

Socdem does not use completely free trade, it enforces a lot of regulations and taxes on businesses

2019-07-30 16:51:55 UTC  

Tesla is considered a cheap car here

2019-07-30 16:52:01 UTC  

Because of the taxation

2019-07-30 16:52:02 UTC  

Not everything is black and white guys

2019-07-30 16:52:10 UTC  

its classified based on the degree of economic liberalisation and what socdem does there is broadly considered centre-left

2019-07-30 16:53:08 UTC  

@rogalik swedish and Norway have liberal economies

2019-07-30 16:53:24 UTC  

that socdem works with a free market is just an aspect of the story you need to weigh in all the things, there are high taxes, welfare, regulations, public ownership and a lots of other things

2019-07-30 16:53:34 UTC  

@uhm not compared to the US

2019-07-30 16:53:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427861399008575499/605805219879714846/meme-1.png

2019-07-30 16:53:40 UTC  

we have been saying that for half an hour now

2019-07-30 16:53:43 UTC  

or Australia or even the UK for that matter

2019-07-30 16:54:04 UTC  

>that socdem works with a free market is just an aspect of the story you need to weigh in all the things, there are high taxes, welfare, regulations, public ownership and a lots of other things
thats exaclty what I said several times