Christians are allowed to make our churches grand, because we do so in honour of God. We make things that honour him and we have the right to make those things extravagant and beautiful. The only thing that could make this sort of thing horrible is being boastful of it, because it should be made as a glorification of God and not of the self

same thing

@buyXRBpls You're retarded lol

You called yourself both.

"Both sides are the same" No they're not

What?

Guys both sides are the same

I guess both sides.

Literally

Wow, the cognitive dissonance is not lost on me.

lol

what glory does stonework give upon god when his flock is dying under the tithes and labours forced from their bodies by their very own vicars?

This is unreal.

"Commies and Fashies are the same!" "Liberals and centrists are not the same!"

@Anarchist-Communist I said I'm a liberal centrist. Im both. Im not far left but I'm not completely a centrist.

the institution of the church (east and west) had become what they so desperately wanted to abstain from during the life of jesus

disciples into pharisees

@Timotheos Komnenos I guess you can also pillage and plunder in order to do so because the "Vicar of Christ" wills it.

Liberals are not leftists.

Liberalism is centrism

Lol no its isnt

Liberalism is a right wing ideology.

^^^

I'm not a Roman Catholic, so that "Vicar of Christ" mentality doesn't apply to me. I know of the evils promoted by the Catholics and their subsequent greed

liberalism advocates for freer markets, classical liberals of yore are now the status quo of the modern day

@Anarchist-Communist No in my personal opinion they're the same due to how simular they are

you think your patriarchs are different?

?????

But one cannot deny that the Church has done good in the world

What is this nonsense you are saying

yeah and the romans built killer roads

@Timotheos Komnenos I agree

My god, dude. Communism and Fascism are clearly extremely different things.

I know

How are they remotely similar

but you wont see the people they massacred bless them for whatever shit they built

Stalin and Mao did not do the same thing Hitler or Mussolini.

but both have simularities

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Like what