Message from @Turdfag

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2019-11-04 15:34:09 UTC  

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2019-11-04 15:34:11 UTC  

Ah shit

2019-11-04 15:34:16 UTC  

Here I go again

2019-11-04 15:34:17 UTC  

in germany he's normal i suppose

2019-11-04 15:34:19 UTC  

kind of like the cyber hegelian ideal

2019-11-04 15:34:25 UTC  

or spirit

2019-11-04 15:34:29 UTC  

like, it's the land of poop shelves

2019-11-04 15:34:29 UTC  

ok

2019-11-04 15:34:32 UTC  

this has to stop

2019-11-04 15:34:40 UTC  

What did you mean when you said that Marxism is insufficient at producing a desirable end result for humanity

2019-11-04 15:34:41 UTC  

Fuck my mom found my piss drawer

2019-11-04 15:34:45 UTC  

@DEATH FUNK what's your actual problem

2019-11-04 15:34:51 UTC  

marxism doesnt accoutn for singularity

2019-11-04 15:34:57 UTC  

or does it?

2019-11-04 15:34:59 UTC  

I dont know

2019-11-04 15:35:02 UTC  

Something along the lines of human needs and desires being incapable of satisfying humanity

2019-11-04 15:35:12 UTC  

@ÜltraÜberGöttKönig you mean technological singularity?

2019-11-04 15:35:16 UTC  

Marxism has failed to intercept the technocapital

2019-11-04 15:35:16 UTC  

yes

2019-11-04 15:35:32 UTC  

@Эхо, Браво explain this notion pls

2019-11-04 15:35:41 UTC  

I want to cum on the marxist manifesto

2019-11-04 15:35:49 UTC  

@ÜltraÜberGöttKönig I think it does, he accounts for technological progress in historical materialism

2019-11-04 15:35:50 UTC  

To assert my dominance

2019-11-04 15:36:07 UTC  

Technology drives the changes of the mode of production and renders old modes of production obsolete

2019-11-04 15:36:11 UTC  

it roots all teh way back to kant who hypothesized that human must serve some kind of purpose, everything that consumes is somehow fuel for another creative force, except humans, turns out we are the fuel for the ai god slowly building itself through capitalism

2019-11-04 15:36:24 UTC  

Capital is intelligent "sentient" in a sense that it is just an artificial intelligence made to win games. When a bank takes your house, your property, it is not one person that does this.

2019-11-04 15:36:27 UTC  

I.e industrialized agriculture obsolescing feudalism

2019-11-04 15:36:55 UTC  

Interesting

2019-11-04 15:37:04 UTC  

Marx admired capital in the sense that it is not a static being.

2019-11-04 15:37:21 UTC  

But what he failed to realize is that capital does not woek for humanity

2019-11-04 15:37:35 UTC  

So how is the Marxist conception of the end of history developed phase of communism unable to fulfill human desire?

2019-11-04 15:37:40 UTC  

It's function is to win for the sake of winning, for itself.

2019-11-04 15:37:57 UTC  

Because I wonder about that myself sometimes

2019-11-04 15:38:13 UTC  

Will full communism really satisfy all of mankind indefinitely?

2019-11-04 15:38:21 UTC  

Capital does not take the progress of humanity, it does not wish for the winning of humanity.

2019-11-04 15:38:42 UTC  

I like to think that it would, but sometimes I feel like it wouldn't and that humanity would go mad

2019-11-04 15:38:59 UTC  

@Эхо, Браво I agree, but I'm unsure if Marx believed that it did

2019-11-04 15:39:21 UTC  

then why assume the progress

2019-11-04 15:39:24 UTC  

He believed that it would collapse under its own contradictions

2019-11-04 15:39:30 UTC  

That being capitalism

2019-11-04 15:40:12 UTC  

The contradictions do not meet an end point