Message from @aWildTomAppeared

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2020-01-15 02:13:27 UTC  

And as with much oral history, "it sounds cool add that to the story".

2020-01-15 02:14:05 UTC  

But both are sourced from Roman writings.

The difference being that the origin of the tale is much older

2020-01-15 02:14:38 UTC  

both?

2020-01-15 02:15:09 UTC  

you mean the earlier stuff with more gods and the later stuff with less?

2020-01-15 02:16:18 UTC  

unless they had a super simple language, i dont see how they wouldnt have ever analysed their existence/thought about thought

2020-01-15 02:18:04 UTC  

Read them

2020-01-15 02:18:11 UTC  

Its really interesting

2020-01-15 02:19:13 UTC  

Pretty much every scenario in which you would assume a self-congnising situation, the person blames a god for their own behavior or actions, good or bad.

It's like they think of themselves as mere puppets

2020-01-15 02:20:05 UTC  

Theres a whole psychological theory surrounding this as well

2020-01-15 02:20:39 UTC  

but that just sound like how people think the voice in their head is god

2020-01-15 02:21:23 UTC  

Yes. Imagine your inner monologue bei g someone else's voice. Multiple voices.

2020-01-15 02:21:30 UTC  

I don't think they necessarily viewed it that way, I've always seen it more as a way of explaining things they can't explain otherwise. And they definitely had an understanding of good and bad actions, code of Hammurabi.

2020-01-15 02:21:49 UTC  

Why would they have had such laws if they thought their god was responsible.

2020-01-15 02:21:50 UTC  

Oh I'm not saying they didn't understand good or bad

2020-01-15 02:22:18 UTC  

oh

2020-01-15 02:22:18 UTC  

I'm saying for both good and bad actions, they hardly attribute those things to themselves

2020-01-15 02:22:50 UTC  

Well I think the fact that those laws exist shows that they did indeed attribute them to themselves, otherwise why have them.

2020-01-15 02:23:04 UTC  

If their not responsible then why would the punish them.

2020-01-15 02:23:19 UTC  

spitting truths

2020-01-15 02:24:21 UTC  

the old '*god told me to ride the horse into the twin huts*'

2020-01-15 02:25:35 UTC  

@meratrix Morality is merely a byproduct of natural law. It seems obvious that the gods would want punishment to befall someone who violates it

2020-01-15 02:26:11 UTC  

Not if that god is the one doing the violation.

2020-01-15 02:26:14 UTC  

by what your saying, they wouldnt view it as them violating it, they would view it as the god puppeting them

2020-01-15 02:26:22 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-15 02:26:41 UTC  

The gods are acting through them for violating the natural law

2020-01-15 02:26:58 UTC  

how could they truely believe that if people had different opinions on things???

2020-01-15 02:27:18 UTC  

Because, believe it or not, morality is actually objective

2020-01-15 02:27:44 UTC  

One of the criticisms I see there is something I thought of a few minutes ago, the Epic of Gilgamesh is very introspective, contrary to the theory.

2020-01-15 02:28:04 UTC  

no I mean, if they thought their thoughts were actually the thoughts of the gods, how could the believe that knowing that different people thought different things?

2020-01-15 02:28:10 UTC  

I'll have to read more, might get the book.

2020-01-15 02:28:33 UTC  

@aWildTomAppeared Because the things they DID agree on would be the things that are important

2020-01-15 02:28:53 UTC  

did you know sargon did a reading of gilgamesh on his old history channel that is much longer than the recent one he did

2020-01-15 02:29:01 UTC  

Yeah

2020-01-15 02:29:16 UTC  

Gilgamesh is the ultimate **T H O T D E S T R O Y E R**.

2020-01-15 02:29:43 UTC  

and the ultimate chad/cucker-of-betas, followed by alcibiades

2020-01-15 02:31:23 UTC  

Ishtar is the first ** T H O T**

2020-01-15 02:31:43 UTC  

Ishtar, the fucking tsundere thot.

2020-01-15 02:32:25 UTC  

**TSUNDERE!!**

\*AC-DC plays*

2020-01-15 02:32:30 UTC  

so what's the deal with Meghan Markle?

2020-01-15 02:32:35 UTC  

she's a whore