What about the banshee?

Ar 500 has nice packages...you can start small and build it or buy all at once

Me n a buddy just ordered a setup with carrier, plates, sides, pads and all for 650..that's 11 x14 plates and the thicker buildup for spell reduction...

Gonna be heeevvvvyyyy

But it is a really modular system for purchasing what you need/want...some of the best ballistics for the money

@MrBlack does that mask have any ballistics?

@johnnyConrad check out skdtac.com they offer plate and carrier packages that don't weigh a fuckton like those fucking ar500 steel ones

Those are nice. But in longevity I am happy with the steel plates...heavier yes than ceramic, but they keep on keeping on

I have some lvl IV standalone multi hit plates from us palm...they went outta business. They weigh basically the same as the steel I'm getting, but they are over an inch thick...the steel will weigh the same but be much slimmer

Of course the steel are lvl III+ but for on the move that should be adequate

Yeah but shrapnel in your jugular

Nahh the coating eliminates it well. And it is basically bed liner. So buy a can from wherever and reapply during down periods if need be.

That shit is all kinds of bomb resistant too for all kinds of other applications

I’ll go with the banshee plate carrier and order off of tactical gear so that I can use that gift card

Solid choice

@Recapdrake I agree with you, spalling worries merry

Wtf was that

Jihad @MulberryMojo

Level IV plates require a 4ft drop prior to testing per NIJ standards.

Eh, weight is a big thing and if you get PE ceramic composite thickness is not a factor any more and spalling is non-existent

And multi hit plates are a thing too

Seen PE ceramic take 5 hits of AP 308

And I'm a huge proponent of people spending their money on expensive thingsnif that's what they want. Haha

^^^

Buy nice

III+ is not a thing. It's something AR500 made up

That's also true, it's not NIJ, it's their own testing they've come up with to show that it will stop threats greater than level iii

It jumps from 3a to IV right?

3a to 3 to 4

@Fartfignewton thank you

I’m talking by nij

https://www.thefirestore.com/nijspec2.htm

NIJ does not test for 3+

Yes its inhouse testing to determine the armor can take greater than level 3 threats, as I said

A lot of armor companies do inhouse testing and then pay for NIJ testing

There are also independent labs that test that are not NIJ

The non NIJ certification made me sell off some PE plates that bought without doing the research. Then bought the ceramics for what a guy paid for my PEs

You'll see more companies forego NIJ testing to keep costs down

Depends what you are comfortable with

There are other independent testing labs

NIJ testing literally costs 10s of thousands of dollars