Message from @rail5
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we wanted to take advantage of the fact that he called himself a socialist to educate his supporters on socialism
What the fuck?
That would be a bad idea, they didn't want socialism, they wanted bernie.
I hope you realize that elections are now based off of personality rather than ideology.
no need to talk down to me, i know that very well
the point of the project was that a certain percentage of his supporters were likely to be radicalized now that the term had be de-demonized
nobody expected 100% of bernie supporters to join the CPUSA
But yet you expected bernie bro's to look at communism?
i'm not sure what you mean by "look at communism"
what we expected was to make short videos explaining the contradictions of capitalism and the incompatibility between democracy and capitalism, and target them towards people who were already inclined to call themselves "Democratic socialists"
during election season especially this could have been very successful had the party known how to organize
What? You really thought that democratic socialists would believe that democracy is incompatable with capitalism?
Not even the democratic socialists in civil war era china believed that.
They are not dem-socs
they are social democrats
extended welfare state
and free shit
does anybody here actually read messages
"who are inclined to -call themselves- democratic socialists..."
was what i said
@rail5 So that means your target audience was demsocs.
if you'd stop antagonizing me before listening to what i'm saying you might learn that we're on the same page
bernie supporters often called themselves democratic socialists
whether thats an accurate label is irrelevent
my apologies if the phrasing in that one sentence was confusing
Go on....
sorry, about what?
i mean what haven't i clarified enough and i'll try my best to explain
....
i'm asking genuinely
dont give any legitimacy to socdems as radicals/socialists at all, it just waters the actual meaning of socialism to mean nothing besides left liberalism.
agreed
its counterproductive and a waste of time
@rail5 If your target audience was soc dems then you guys failed right there and then.
Soc dems will never become radical communists.
Even mao had to deal with that issue.
i mean i guess i just fundamentally disagree. i've seen even a number of right-wingers become radicalized into the far left
it seems to me the far left is just plainly logical
and if somebody is open to logical reasoning they'll be open to socialism
regardless of their political background
@rail5 There will always be exceptions with a few people.
(And in the best case, people like you will probably just get people who have no idea what they are doing).